Ask HN: Why do we pay for domain names?

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by jhardy54 • 13 years ago

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There are over 100 million domain names registered, which I'll assume average out at $15/year (being conservative). All said and done, that means $1.5 billion in revenue for the countries and corporations that own TLDs, which were assigned by ICANN.

Should DNS be crowdsourced, with the cost of the domain name accurately reflecting the cost of operating the DNS network? Even at $0.01 per domain name per year, we would still have $100,000 to operate the DNS network.

Is there something I haven't considered, or does the current system need to be replaced?

zellio• 13 years ago

Monopoly and regulation. Rather, monopoly is why it costs so damn much. Regulation is necessary because we need to have one internet, not many.

t0• 13 years ago

Exactly. Most of that $15 goes directly to ICANN and Verisign. http://www.hostly.com/hosting-info/much-domain-names-cost-15...

gacba• 13 years ago

Not quite.

ICANN Fees

ICANN charges a fee for each domain name registered. The fee is 20 cents per domain.

The domain registrars pay additional fees to ICANN, but it's hardly anywhere near the 90+% you quoted.

martey• 13 years ago

If domain names cost $0.01 a year, wouldn't domain squatting become worse?

ChristianBundy• 13 years ago

I look at it like emails – yes, we could make it so that it costs $0.50 to send an email, and this would make less people spam... but it isn't an elegant solution.

I think that domain name squatters should be flagged and the domains should be removed if they aren't being used appropriately. Furthermore, bulk domain registration should be banned – I can't think of a simple reason that this should be allowed.

argonaut• 13 years ago

How is that inelegant? That would be a fantastic solution to email spam!

I think that domain name squatters should be flagged and the domains should be removed if they aren't being used appropriately.

Who gets to flag squatters? How do we define "used appropriately?" Who gets to decide whether a squatter meets that definition?

A system of flagging is more complicated than you think.

catinsocks• 13 years ago

Sure have it cost $0.01 and then for your $0.01 you can get your very own thisismyuniquedomainname4311.com because everyone else got there before you.

jeorgun• 13 years ago

The main answer seems to be `domain squatting'. Obviously this is a definite concern, but couldn't it also be solved by having TLD owners instituting some requirement to the effect of ``if you've owned your domain for over a year but still haven't used it for anything, we're taking it back''?

Of course, that leads to concerns over what qualifies as `using', but I'd imagine something could be worked out.

weddpros• 13 years ago

In a sense, domain names are similar to (software) patents. They're considered private property. Which is, imho, a very bad idea. It's a kind of legal extortion, just like patent trolls and software patents in general. And unused domain names ownership hurt entrepreneurship the same way patents hurt it.

pyvek• 13 years ago

Have you looked at Namecoin? [0] [1] Apart from being a cryptocurrency, it supports a decentralized DNS.

[0] http://namecoin.info/

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namecoin

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