New Delicious

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by jetboyz23 • 13 years ago

63 53 13 years ago

ojbyrne• 13 years ago

I'd like to see one site that relaunches without using the words "super-clean" or "beautiful." Just for a change.

est2• 13 years ago

we need so..oo more than saving "links" now. We need full text searchable full page archived. Maybe including the audio/video as well.

Think the last time you saved a page on twitter/facebook but just few hours later the OP decided to delete or hide the post.

And perhaps facebook-like graph search based on metadata extracted from page. E.g. search a archived page talking about presents published before 2013 Christmas, author's name is vaguely start with letter J, from website XYZ

boyter• 13 years ago

I actually have considered doing this as a wordpress plugin. The amount of times I have linked to something only to have it die later and loose the content is quite high.

A service to do this would be nice, although I cannot see myself paying for it so not sure how you would monetise.

est2• 13 years ago

hosting could be solved by using third parties, like Dropbox, GDrive, etc.

Actually you can monetize it well. You provide free crawler service (like parsing deep link pages to static ones), users save the content with their private storage provider, and you can sell service to another customer, $5 each at a time for retrieving a dead link

jaysonelliot3• 13 years ago

Take a look at our site, Clipular: https://www.clipular.com

We save full, searchable text with each "clip," and let you snap a box around whatever part of the page you'd like for your image. The image you clip is also shareable by itself, or as part of a board, if you make one.

We don't have a graph search like you describe, but I'd be interested to hear more about your idea!

iaskwhy2• 13 years ago

Interesting. How do you make money?

huskyr• 13 years ago

Pinboard does full text archiving and searching for $25 a year.

https://pinboard.in/upgrade/

porker• 13 years ago

I've been using Diigo [0] for over a year (since switching from Delicious) and it works well for archiving pages and searching.

For me its killer feature is being able to highlight passages on the page and add sticky notes to annotate what I'm reading. An archived page on its own would be useless if I couldn't remember why it was important.

PDF annotation is coming soon.

[0] http://www.diigo.com

elevatorpitches• 13 years ago

I use Linkdrop for my bookmarks and it does just what you're suggesting. It's still kind of small, sorta new-ish, but works perfect for what I need.

http://www.linkdrop.com/

Here are some of the things it does:

- Permanently stores the link and its full content within seconds

- Takes a screenshot of the page

- Saves the entire HTML for full text searching (like a private search engine of just your links)

- If the bookmark points to a file it downloads a backup copy of the file

- Creates a backup copy of YouTube and other videos that I drop to myself so that I never lose them (This is the feature I upgraded to a paid account for because free accounts get lower quality video backups and it's the same with screenshots. I wanted high quality everything.)

- Connects to Dropbox and copies all of my bookmarks, screenshots, and video / file backups to a folder in Dropbox

- Lets me email links to myself to save them

- Lets me share with other people who have an account

- Notifies me with a text when somebody else sends me a link (I use this all the time, I get random links from people throughout the day)

- Lets me organize, filter, and sort my links like an inbox specifically for links

- Emails me a list of links I've received at a regular interval

- Has a Pinterest-style grid view option

- Works on my phone

- Can send links to Facebook and Twitter at the same time through it

- Can save links with one click using bookmarklets for my folders

There's more, but those are the main features that I think make it worth using. Check out the site to see a better feature list.

It does exactly what I need it to by acting as an endpoint for my links.

If I want to save something and make sure I can find it again later I drop it to myself on Linkdrop which also backs it up to Dropbox. Very useful in my opinion.

nl• 13 years ago

Delicious: Coulda been Pinterest. Coulda been a contender.

(I didn't actually realize Yahoo sold Delicious. Interesting..)

vlad• 13 years ago

There's a video on the blog about the redesign -- maybe it should be on the home page:

http://blog.delicious.com/2013/09/ten-years-of-delicious-sam...

jaysonelliot3• 13 years ago

I logged in (for the first time in at least a year) and snapped a screenshot: http://www.clipular.com/posts/5191729086988288?k=JiS8gdhlAch...

On first blush, it's underwhelming. A lot of monotone flatness, which I'm sure hit some kind of trend that got it greenlit, but doesn't make for good UX.

The interface is a solid wall of text that makes it very hard to distinguish one link from the next. There's no signposts to make it easy to tell where you are, or what you're able to do.

I ran through the bookmarking process, and it's clunky. Still asks you to tag things, only now things like the suggested tags are gone, meaning you have to think even more about what you're doing as you save bookmarks.

There's nothing really new that I can see, just a coat of paint and a lot of gratuitous flatness. Flat for flat's sake is definitely this year's skeuomorphism.

Full disclosure: I work with a clipping service that might be considered a Delicious competitor. (But I'd have the same critiques even if I didn't).

thibauts• 13 years ago

Has it been acquired by microsoft ? (sarcasm)

  @user downvoter and (max-iq: 12) {
      Wow ! In my humble opinion this site may have lost its
      identity and brand, if I'm not mistaken !
  }

k-mcgrady• 13 years ago

I'm not a designer but aesthetically it looks horrible to me. It's bad enough that if it was a site I hadn't heard of or used I wouldn't sign up.

greg5green• 13 years ago

There actually are still suggested tags. The field shows up between "Tags" and "Comments" if the link has been tagged before.

kamakazizuru• 13 years ago

too late - already moved to pinboard. its clean and works.

tomh• 13 years ago

Same here. Pinboard had a great site, great design, and just did the 'one job' very well when Delicious misstepped, and took a lot of their users. I've been using it for 1+ years now and love it. #alittlelatetotheparty

adrow• 13 years ago

Agreed, I have no motivation to create a new account just to see what they've done with it now. I used Delicious for many years, but they just seemed to completely lose direction. All I wanted was a simple bookmarking tool and Pinboard is perfect in that respect.

dancecodes2• 13 years ago

I found diigo.com - and thank you delicious

a3n• 13 years ago

Same. I can't see any reason to explore whatever Delicious became after the neglect of the Yahoo years.

Even if Delicious advertised themselves as "exactly what we used to be!" I'd still stay with pinboard, because pinboard boils it down to an excellent utility. I was always struggling with Delicious to maintain my privacy settings, and it was tedious in the extreme to maintain and cull bookmarks.

And now I see in a cousin comment that pinboard has an upgrade available for a yearly fee, that archives content of bookmarked links. That makes me very happy, because it gives them revenue beyond the "one small fee for life," and makes it possible that they will outlive me.

Pinboard: it just does what it does, and very very well.

whalesalad• 13 years ago

Wow the UI feels like an exact clone of the Microsoft account management area // outlook.com

debugger87• 13 years ago

clean and fast, i love it again!

tuxracer• 13 years ago

Awesome Chaplin.js http://chaplinjs.org/ app btw

benguild• 13 years ago

I like it. But, what am I going to use it for this time?

justined• 13 years ago

Too late for the game, but the new UI is sleek.

Some front-end libraries i found:

- chapin.js

- backbone.js

- handlebars.js

- lodash

- moment.js

- r.js

- store.js

- mousetrap

ababab• 13 years ago

Years ago, Delicious used to have the killer feature. Nowadays, Google's Chrome Sync and Pocket adequately keep my bookmarks alive.

AndrewDucker• 13 years ago

Delicious was _awful_ for a while - slow, clunky, intermittent service.

But since the redesign it's all been working incredibly smoothly for me. I'm happier with it than I've ever been.

adrianhoward• 13 years ago

Too late a change for me. Completely lost my trust when they lost about 1000 bookmarks during the move/reimplementation post-Yahoo. Happy(ish) pinboard user.

dancecodes2• 13 years ago

Unlimited scroll? Nope, thank you. Dont mention it. Not at all.

So who needs in unlimited scroll?

acjacobson• 13 years ago

I don't think the problem is UX at this point - or even features as many others have pointed out. The issue for me is that the community left, or certainly isn't close to being the same. I used to go to Delicious for the same reason I currently visit HN - to see what's interesting today. Without a strong group of people posting interesting things on a regular basis, I am just not incentivized to keep coming back.

Singletoned• 13 years ago

Nothing happens for me using Opera. It just has a small logo in the centre of the page that moves slightly forever.

pearjuice• 13 years ago

Loading screen for a static web page. Is that really necessary?

jasonkester• 13 years ago

It's been a year since last I was there, and it looks like they're halfway back to where they were when they bought it.

I can find links to a website by typing its name into a search box now. I can see a list of my own links now. Those are nice improvements (or dis-catastropic-mistakes) over the last version.

I still can't sort search results by anything other than, well, randomness it seems. Certainly not by number of points. Maybe by date of the last save?

So yeah, halfway there. Even the font is halfway between the terribly oversized font from the redesign and where it belongs. I once got 20 links to a page. Then I got 4. Now I'm back to 9, which at least looks like a list.

I'll check back in a couple years to see where they're at. But I'm not going to start using them again. Fool me once, and all that.

sergiosgc• 13 years ago

The only thing that kept me on delicious is an unofficial android app (droidicious, if I recall correctly), that keeps all the functionality of their old site. It's ridiculous to the point that I send my browser tabs to my tablet so I don't have to suffer the horrid bookmarklet (pet peeve: add all common tags; are they stupid?)

wslh• 13 years ago

I don't think they had a good product manager. I quit delicious a few months ago because of their lack of support of browser add-ons. It takes less than one week to develop a good add-on for Chrome!

Another disturbing thing was the UX: delicious was slower in 2013 than in 2009...

Sorry, I can only bash them: it is hard to do a business around Delicious but destroying what worked is irrational. The delicious app for Android goes in the right direction but it's late.

arocks• 13 years ago

Don't understand why they are trying to fix what was not broken. Delicious was a fast and easy-to-use UI for social bookmarking.

Over the last 3 or 4 years they made their UI progressively worse: replacing spaces for keyword separators by commas, slower autocomplete and now barely visible input boxes. Delicious has been extremely unkind to it's longtime users.

kozlovsky• 13 years ago

I cannot understand why Delicious team doesn't implemented collaborative filtering [1]. I think this is the main benefit that the user can get from a social bookmarking site - the ability to see the "bookmarks of others that are similar to your bookmarks". The implementation is not too complex and nicely covered in the book [2] with examples in Python. The book even has a special section "Building a del.icio.us Link Recommender".

If I'm not mistaken, there were prototypes for doing collaborative filtering of Delicious dataset written by standalone applications. But doing such filtering requires direct access to the database and cannot be done efficiently via HTTP. So, after the current team had bought Delicious from Yahoo, I thought that implementing collaborative filtering would be their main priority. Instead of that, they concentrate forces on worsening and cluttering UI experience along with breaking various Delicious bookmarking plugins for popular browsers.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_filtering [2] http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596529321.do

jbrooksuk• 13 years ago

I'm not going to lie. I almost peed myself in fright after the logo turned into an entire block of garish blue.

arundavid• 13 years ago

Mobile friendly.. Seriously! What about 240px mobiles?

   @media (max-width: 300px){
     html * {
     display: none;
    }
    html:after {
     content: "Enlarge your window to see the content.";
    }
   }

dagw• 13 years ago

Mobile friendly means iPhone friendly. People test on what they have, and most web designers have iPhones.

cyberjunkie• 13 years ago

These guys need to go through that Yahoo process of changing designs and logos everyday for a month and choose a popular one.

Even Digg seems to have diluted and become like a content aggregation site than what it used to be

michaelbuckbee• 13 years ago

I feel like Delicious was trapped into thinking they were just about "bookmarks" and never were able to really articulate or grow into a more mature service.

Consider them against something like Bitly - which presents itself as a link shortening service, but is really an analytics company.

I've always felt like Delicious could have grown into this much more fantastic organizational or promotional tool, but instead went far the other direction in trying to make the service into a "social news" site instead.

This re-launch is nice and a good step, but seems like too little too late.

fu86• 13 years ago

Booring as usual. "Great" job, AVOS Systems. :/

cl3m• 13 years ago

It's great, much better than before. Hopefully they continue to improve the service. They don't seems to have a lot of users anymore tough. When you bookmark, you get the number of person who bookmarked before you and it is usually very low ...

k_bx• 13 years ago

login with facebook
asks for a fullname, email, username, password, captcha and terms agreement

Yeah, maybe some other time, thank you.

riskable• 13 years ago

I gave up on Delicious years ago. These days I use http://bookmarked.us/ which is the opposite of "social". It stores your bookmarks in your browser (using IndexedDB) and synchronizes with Evernote when YOU tell it to.

It also has the fastest/best sort-bookmarks-by-tag mechanism I've used which is really my entire reason for using it. I should know: wrote it! :D

It's free, there's no ads, and it works offline.

Also, if you want to bookmark something from Android (which is always a pain without writing an app) you can just "share" any given page into Evernote under the "Bookmarked.us" notebook and it will magically appear in your bookmarks the next time you sync.

oneeyedpigeon• 13 years ago

They broke the back button :-(

norswap• 13 years ago

Looked around: - no way to upload existing browser bookmarks (in fact, no way to bulk upload bookmarks at all) - no browser extension

I have about ~1k bookmarks, synced with XMarks and backed up regularly, and currently Delicious is clearly not a compelling alternative.

Unlike some other commenters, I like the new design.

EDIT: Apparently it's doable on the old version: http://export.delicious.com/settings/bookmarks/import

gesman• 13 years ago

Turn off #1: forced signup.

Try again when ready.

taude• 13 years ago

I've pretty much stopped using any bookmarking service. If something is important enough for me to remember, I file it away into one of several files (my custom categorization system).

For example, if I come across an interesting JavaScript library, I add it to javaScript libraries along with a sentence or two that gives it good context for why I should be interested, what problem it solves, etc.. Someone recommends me a movie? I access all these files quickly through nvAlt that syncs to DropBox so I can acess from all my devices.

I found that no matter what service I was using, delicious, springpad, etc., I was only hoarding links and never really using those tools to look them back up. I was essentially "saving" them to satisfy some hoarding need or something. Often, it is just faster to do a Google search to something I remember saving, too.

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