Cappuccino 0.7 Released

http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2009/05/20/cappuccino-07-now-available/

by boucher • 17 years ago

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stuffmc• 17 years ago

Yeaaaah! Cappuccino Rocks Da House!!! :-)

shiranaihito4• 17 years ago

It's weird how a harmless and well-meaning response gets so many downvotes for not being all serious and business-like.

thwarted3• 17 years ago

It doesn't need to be serious and business-like, but it does need to contribute to the discussion. The likes of leet speak, fanboi terms, and first post claims do none of that, and in fact are harmful (no matter how well-meaning) because they contribute to the noise rather than the signal.

judofyr• 17 years ago

Also notice that the account was created at the same time as the comment (1 hour ago) and this is his only comment.

tolmasky2• 17 years ago

I truly hope the irony of this situation doesn't escape anyone here. The fact that this entire post is now dominated by a discussion of what makes a good comment (and thus being equally harmful to this post as a single "useless" comment itself) should point to a perhaps failed strategy.

johnfox• 17 years ago

As a longtime Cocoa developer, I'm thrilled to be able to use Cappuccino. The .7 release is a great leap forward, particularly the new theming capability. I've literally dreamed of the day that I could deliver a true desktop quality experience in a web app: Cappuccino will let me get there.

tolmasky2• 17 years ago

We'll be putting up some tutorials on how to use nib2cib and all the new technologies in the coming weeks

old-gregg• 17 years ago

280North looks awesome: hacking on some cool stuff, enjoying life. If you don't mind me asking, how do you survive?

Most YC startups are desperately pimping their little web sites on every techcrunch they can find, consuming every open sourced library there is, without contributing much back, while you're sailing along like open source gods, immortal, living off the sunlight.

I know about 280Slides, but it seems you're mostly about Atlas and Cappuccino, so which one is your monetizable product? Or did I nail it with immortality? :)

sarvesh3• 17 years ago

Atlas, as far as I know, won't be open source. So Atlas would be their monetizable product. 280Slides could be monetized in the future which is also not an open source project.

boucher2• 17 years ago

We're not immortal, but I'm glad you think so. We strongly believe in open source software, and we want to be a part of it. Cappuccino is our way of doing that. Plus, with something this cool, we just couldn't keep it to ourselves :)

But, for the record, Atlas will be a commercial product. We are not yet ready to release details though.

aston• 17 years ago

The Aristo PSDs should be a treat for folks like me with no real Photoshop training but with the ambition to make things that don't look ugly.

mlLK• 17 years ago

Is this [really] the solution for building cross-compliant applications for web-browsers?

   When you program in Cappuccino, you don't need to concern yourself
   with the complexities of traditional web technologies like HTML, CSS, or even
   the DOM. The unpleasantries of building complex cross browser applications are
   abstracted away for you.

[http://cappuccino.org/learn/documentation/]

sarvesh3• 17 years ago

It definitely is one of the better solutions out there. For most parts it does work across browsers without any major issues. The only problem i have seen so far with cappuccino is that sometimes with slower browsers like IE the application seems less responsive.

utx008• 17 years ago

what do you think about something like extjs?

sarvesh3• 17 years ago

extjs is a library and Objective-J is a new language. It is different in many respects. extjs might be good library to have with existing frameworks but if you are building something really complex UI on the web you are better off with Cappuccino.

utx008• 17 years ago

does anyone have experience with something like this (or SproutCore, GWT) versus a heavier javascript solutions that uses the backend purely to get data? i'm thinking extjs on the frontend with an api on the backend (probably django for the admin). any feedback? ps: i expect to write js most of the time as opposed to (in this case) python. extjs is rich enough that i don't have to muck with html/css either and i can throw google gears for good measure.

sorry, too long.

appreciate any comments.

SwellJoe• 17 years ago

I was under the impression that this was more like ExtJS (i.e. the heavier end of the scale) rather than something like jQuery that pretty much just works on top of standard HTML markup.

I spent several months attempting to hack our applications to work within the ExtJS way, but found it pretty hostile to working with a traditional web application (e.g. POST/GET rather than AJAX everything). This bad experience led me to dismiss Cappuccino as being inappropriate for our needs, though it might be useful for writing apps from scratch. jQuery has proven far more amenable to a baby-steps conversion from a traditional CGI app to an AJAX application. There's also the accessibility and downgrade path question with all-JavaScript generated pages (like ExtJS, and, I thought, Cappuccino).

But perhaps I'm mistaken about Cappuccino.

utx008• 17 years ago

very informative. thanks.

i think in cappuccino you do everything in the "backend". there's no need to write javascript/html/css ... which is good in a lot of ways (you can output source for different devices, and i'm even guessing you could generate different backends - php, .NET) - but i'm more interested in the js/AJAX everything model, lighter on the backend.

i've never worked in objectiveC/J but js seems nicer at first glance. but i may just be saying that so that i don't feel like i would miss something should we choose etxjs.

more feedback would be appreciated guys.

boucher2• 17 years ago

Cappuccino is a completely client side framework. It requires nothing on the server. It is written in JavaScript and Objective-J (a small set of extensions to JavaScript). It uses no python.

Cappuccino 0.7 Released

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