EFF: Show Support for the Fourth Amendment

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/july-4-show-your-support-fourth-amendment

by Argentum01 • 13 years ago

281 36 13 years ago

jzelinskie• 13 years ago

If you're an administrator of a website and you actually care about this, your priorities should be at least implementing proper HTTPS support before placing a linked image to the EFF on your website.

willvarfar2• 13 years ago

With forward secrecy.

Oh, and don't use a block cipher because of attacks.

Oh, and don't use RC4 because of .. attacks.

Oh bugger.

swordswinger12• 13 years ago

Use whatever you want as long as you get an experienced cryptographer to implement it. Even RC4 can be secure if used properly.

Hello71• 13 years ago

Turn off SSL 3.0 and TLS 1.0.

Problem solved for all known attacks.

Unfortunately, that includes your users.

oceanstone4• 13 years ago

People are really starting to wake up, I think this stuff is finally working.

bherms2• 13 years ago

I wouldn't go that far yet... Signing an online petition is about the least you could possibly do, aside from nothing. If we want real change, we need major protests, people to flood Congress with calls & letters, and more. That being said, I think people are starting to do those other things, but major policy change won't come from an email on a petition.

jdp23• 13 years ago

That's the exciting thing about Restore the Fourth: real-world protests as well as online. We'll see how big tomorrow is, but in any case there will be a lot to build on.

oceanstone4• 13 years ago

This could be a (fun) major protest -> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/july-4-show-your-suppo...

orthecreedence• 13 years ago

Don't underestimate the US population's apathy. Until something directly affects us (as in, costs me money, or keeps me from angrily driving an SUV around, or keeps me from buying tons of crap I don't need) it's very difficult to enact change.

That said, I'm still going to the RestoreThe4th protests tomorrow. I believe in what this country used to stand for, and it's worth the fight to get it back, even if the rest of the country drowns in lethargy.

oceanstone4• 13 years ago

The NSA spying directly affects us. It allows groups with a history of blackmail to save & index any non face-to-face communications.

cjambassador318• 13 years ago

I totally agree.

It's tough being so intelligent and free-thinking. Most people are just ignorant sheeple, but not us here on HN and reddit.

medde• 13 years ago

Do you know how much all those secret spying programs cost?

sidcool2• 13 years ago

I am from India, (and have stayed in the US for 3 years, now back in India) but I have deep concerns about the happenings in the US. I am an ardent supporter of the US for the freedom and equality they support. They are truly the greatest country on the Earth. But some recent developments have made me sad. I don't want that to happen in my country.

The Indian Government has denied granting asylum to Snowden, obviously under the pressure of the US. I apologize on my Country's behalf and take the responsibility of this decision.

davidjgraph• 13 years ago

They are truly the greatest country on the Earth

Evidence? The highest GDP? This clip of some US drama got some sharing recently - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVwUphZ37Ww. Although, the reasoning is pretty awful in parts, the point about freedom rings true. Having everyone's comms recorded is freedom?

And equality, gay marriage is now legal in a whole 13 states? There are a number of countries in Europe that spank America's bottom on Equality.

Are we talking rights equality or wealth equality, or both? The wealth inequality in America is second to none, except maybe North Korea...

I apologize on my Country's behalf and take the responsibility of this decision.

And the oscar for HN melodrama goes to...

sidcool2• 13 years ago

Ok, I agree that was somewhat melodramatic, but I meant it. I feel embarrassed.

nhangen5• 13 years ago

That's quite rude no? The OP was merely stating an opinion, which he/she is entitled to do. Bitter much?

RyanMcGreal• 13 years ago

They are truly the greatest country on the Earth.

The US is at or very near the worst among OECD countries in: infant mortality, child poverty, child health and safety, life expectancy at birth, healthy life expectancy, rate of obesity, disability-adjusted life years, doctors per 1000 people, deaths from treatable conditions, rate of mental health disorders, rate of drug abuse, rate of prescription drug use, incarceration rate, rate of assaults, rate of homicides, rate of firearm deaths, rate of accidental firearm deaths and injuries, income inequality, wealth inequality, and economic mobility.

tokenizer• 13 years ago

Don't forget: Maternity/Paternity Leave, Paid Sick Time, and Paid Vacation.

kimlelly• 13 years ago

Yes, show support for the 4th Amendment and at the same time - just in case the current level of support will continue to be ridiculed by the government - communicate safely:

Use RetroShare: http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/

It's:

1. Decentralized (real p2p, no central servers)

2. Encrypted communication

3. Easier to set up than encrypted email: Install -> Exchange "certificates" -> Done.

IMO, it's currently the best way to communicate.

EDIT: If you downvote, state what's wrong, because I don't see it.

nhangen5• 13 years ago

People probably assume that you work for retroshare and are using this thread to promote it.

cmpxchg8• 13 years ago

I fail to see what this has to do with the protest or the 4th Amendment for that matter. Seems to me like you're treating the symptoms but not the cause.

EFF: Show Support for the Fourth Amendment

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