Parrot VM v1.0.0 released

http://www.parrot.org/news/2009/Parrot-1.0.0

by johnm • 17 years ago

61 29 17 years ago

Steve0• 17 years ago

Site is down, I was curious so I googled a bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot_virtual_machine

Parrot is a register-based virtual machine being developed using the C programming language and intended to run dynamic languages efficiently. It uses just-in-time compilation for speed to reduce the interpretation overhead. It is currently possible to compile Parrot assembly language and PIR (an intermediate language) to Parrot bytecode and execute it.

Parrot was started by the Perl community, and is developed with help from the open source and free software communities.

philjackson• 17 years ago

I commend the poster for having the will power required to omit an exclamation mark from the end of that title.

johnm2• 17 years ago

:-)

Since the separation of Parrot from the development of Perl 6, I do think it's fair to say that progress has been good.

reitzensteinm• 17 years ago

They should have waited another 14 days.

draegtun5• 17 years ago

What 31st March? ;-)

Parrot 1.0 was released on 17th March.. as scheduled.

Dobbs• 17 years ago

Parrot is out but perl 6 is only half way complete. The closest implementation has (warning!: second hand knowledge) passed 7,000 spec tests. There will be an estimated 15,000 spec tests when they are finished being written.

gamache3• 17 years ago

Halfway complete means Perl 6 will drop sometime around 2020. Sounds about right to me.

draegtun5• 17 years ago

Not quite.

What it means is Parrot now has a stable API for language developers.... http://perlbuzz.com/2008/11/parrot-10-will-be-out-in-march-2...

Its looks like Rakudo 1.0 (Perl6 on Parrot) is earmarked for next year... 10 years earlier than you feared ;-)

draegtun5• 17 years ago

Here are the actual test stats... http://rakudo.org/status

BTW... "half way complete" != "passes half of the tests". I would have thought the hard stuff was done first ;-)

StrawberryFrog2• 17 years ago

- That website is dead!

+ No it's not, it's just resting.

- Resting? I know a " operation timed out" when I see one.

+ It's pining for the fjords.

... etc.

jrockway3• 17 years ago

Ah, so the script that automatically posts this skit to Reddit whenever the word "Parrot" is mentioned works with HN now. Very nice.

Or should I say, this joke was funny about 5 years ago. After being used 150 times since then, it's really lost its charm.

blasdel• 17 years ago

To be fair, the web server really was dead for quite a while (and I really hate that movie).

StrawberryFrog2• 17 years ago

"whenever the word "Parrot" is mentioned"? No, I posted it because the website as as dead as a parrot. And ended with "etc" quite quickly because, yeah, old gag.

jballanc4• 17 years ago

Parrot's biggest issue is that they don't have a First-among-equals language that they can do better than anyone else. JVM has Java, CLR has C#, even Perl 6 has moved to PUGS. I commend the Parrot team for the amazing effort they've been showing, but I'd liken this to Duke Nukem Forever finally settling on a Physics Engine...

jrockway3• 17 years ago

Perl 6 hasn't moved to Pugs. Although anything that passes the Perl 6 test suite is Perl 6, the "real" Perl 6 is Rakudo, which runs on Parrot.

Pugs was really just a prototype. Read the source code some time, and you'll see why.

johnm2• 17 years ago

What language do you think would be best for them/someone to move to Parrot as their base platform?

Given Parrot's very dynamic nature, a dynamic language seems like a good idea. Io would be quite interesting but it's too esoteric at this point so perhaps a more popular prototype-based language like JavaScript? What about dumping the old, crappy C-based implementation of Ruby for Parrot?

draegtun5• 17 years ago

There is already an implementation of Ruby on Parrot called "Cardinal". Don't know its status but it can now be found in GitHub http://github.com/cardinal

There is also a Python implementation called "Pynie" http://code.google.com/p/pynie/

List of language developments are kept on the wiki at https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/Languages.

If language developers get behind Parrot it could become a very interesting alternative to JVM & .Net

jballanc4• 17 years ago

Actually, JavaScript would be kind of interesting as a First-among-equals language. The more I work with JS, the more I get the feeling that it's a wonderful language crippled by a tragic standard library and a horrible run time.

tene3• 17 years ago

Perl 6 hasn't moved to Pugs. Pugs was an experimental prototype that was already abandoned by the time work started on Rakudo (Perl 6 on Parrot).

jballanc4• 17 years ago

Thanks for the update... it's been a good 6 months or so since I last checked on Perl 6's progress...

Parrot VM v1.0.0 released

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