Gmail down; Outage could last 36 hours for some

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9129347

by nickb • 17 years ago

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gstar2• 17 years ago

That's 3 strikes, and Gmail: you're out. I'm moving my domains off gmail as the primary MX.

Is there a viable alternative to gmail for conversation view and search?

rksprst• 17 years ago

Not that I know of, though I've moved from google apps to hosted exchange with Sherweb and couldn't be happier. I love the fact that my calendar & address book sync wirelessly with my iPhone. Also, push email is great.

onk• 17 years ago

> Is there a viable alternative to gmail for conversation view and search?

Mutt but you'll have to type "ot" to order by thread and "l~b<word>" to search (limit) by <word> in the body of your mail.

lsb• 17 years ago

Can your spam filters do better?

modoc3• 17 years ago

Mine do as well, yes. I'm not knocking GMail's spam filters, but it's absolutely possible to run your own mail server virtually spam free. I've had the same primary e-mail address for 11 years, posted it all over the place, and I almost never see spam in my inbox.

modoc3• 17 years ago

Mail.app on OS X has a very nice threaded view. It's not exactly the same, but it's still very nice:)

cubicle67• 17 years ago

This mentality always strikes me as odd; like firing an employee when they make a mistake.

The key factor to consider should be "Have they learnt from this?". The outage has happened. It won't unhappen. The question now is, will Google fix the problems that caused this, or don't they care.

gstar2• 17 years ago

The 3 mistakes in short succession show that they haven't learnt from this, and I should make provisions for myself.

Somewhat similar to a staff member who has had 3 warnings is obviously not learning.

herval• 17 years ago

You'd be right - if it happened only once. Or twice. It's not really like firing someone, though - if your bank keeps screwing you up, woudln't you consider opening an account somewhere else...?

jaaron2• 17 years ago

Web or desktop?

For desktop, a new entrance is Postbox, which takes a lot of clues from GMail: http://www.postbox-inc.com

Personally, I use gnus: http://www.gnus.org

tokenadult• 17 years ago

My Gmail is working considerably better than my access to HN recently.

The safest course would be to keep some other email domain, download it locally with whatever email client one prefers (as I have long done) but have everything forwarded to Gmail. That's what I did after a local computer crash hosed my access to email for a while. But now I like accessing my Gmail through Gmail's interface, EXCEPT for the lousy way that Gmail implements adding new names to address lists for mailing to multiple people at once. I've had no service interruptions at all the last few times Gmail service interruptions have been in the news.

drsnyder• 17 years ago

For those of us who like the gmail interface this seems like a reasonable option. But, you still have to "push" the problem to another provider. Who do you rely on for your 'some other email domain'?

whughes• 17 years ago

Gmail acts as a POP client too, if you want to wrangle with that. It's in the options.

jaaron2• 17 years ago

I actually go the other way around. I have email forwarded to gmail before then getting forwarded to an email server on my own domain. I use GMail for spam filtering, archiving and sometimes for search and a quick web interface. Mostly I process email locally using gnus.

I used to use GMail's POP3 interface, but I found it unreliable at times, so that's why I switched to my own email server.

jonknee2• 17 years ago

FUD, it's only down for "a small subset of users". Works fine for me, both web and IMAP.

martey• 17 years ago

GMail's Wikipedia article suggests that 100 million people have used GMail. Even "a small subset" could be a substantial number of people.

jonknee2• 17 years ago

... But yet the headline made it sound like all of Gmail was down when at best it's a small percentage. When the headline says "Gmail down" and I look over and see that Gmail is in fact not down, it's an incorrect headline.

vinutheraj• 17 years ago

Err.. the apps page shows no message for me atleast !?!

Gmail down; Outage could last 36 hours for some

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