OpenAI mandates hardware-backed passkeys for Trusted Access Cyber members

https://www.yubico.com/blog/openai-mandates-hardware-backed-passkeys-for-trusted-access-cyber-members-to-log-into-chatgpt-accounts/

by speckx • 9 days ago

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rahidz• 8 days ago

Does this apply to anyone who verified their ID to get access to the slightly less restricted Codex versions, or only to security professionals who have the almost-entirely unrestricted version?

Zenul_Abidin• 8 days ago

This is what I want to know too. I already gave them my ID, and I won't be happy if they put more barriers to my usage

nicce3• 8 days ago

I hope that at some point this is not developing to remote attestation when only "permitted" devices can use the models.

gustavus• 8 days ago

We all know that's where they are going with this.

inigyou2• 8 days ago

No, that would almost certainly defeat the point of selling the models.

Hardware 2FA is not a new concept and is recommended by many people for many purposes. Only the authentication token is attested, and that is the purpose of an authentication token.

3form• 8 days ago

If it will, it will be with smartphones. YubiKeys don't quite have the properties sought here.

UltraSane2• 8 days ago

Or even only letting the model be used via remote desktop style access.

random3• 8 days ago

It’s an advertisement by Yubikey - the hardware key manufacturer

jeroenhd• 8 days ago

I tried enabling their "advanced security" programme on my account and it's currently refusing to continue without at least 2 keys configured.

The first "hardware key" is actually my Bitwarden faking a hardware key (I'm sure they'll start blocking BW because of this in the future) but it doesn't let me add a second one unfortunately.

netruk44• 8 days ago

It’s a security feature, Apple does the same when you register a security key. You must register two.

If you’re using real yubikeys, it’s protection against losing one. If you had two from the start, you’re not at risk of losing your only way into your account when one goes missing or is stolen.

jmole2• 8 days ago

Cobranded YubiKeys? Weird flex but ok.

Seriously though if you are letting agents do whatever they want without a PR process that requires hardware authentication or proof of presence, you are putting your code and your org at high risk.

kirab• 8 days ago

Cobranded YubiKeys

More interesting than that even, a tier of YubiKeys that does not exist outside of this cooperation.

The supported features sit between a YubiKey 5C and a Security Key C and I did not find any other way to purchase this tier.

jallmann• 8 days ago

want without a PR process that requires hardware authentication or proof of presence

Just curious, what do you use for this?

I built OTP Guard [1] a few years ago for exactly this problem, although I haven't seen any alternatives in the space. Does GitHub have something built-in now?

The original framing was more "local malware compromising your GitHub account" ... it never occurred to me that the malware could be a LLM. I really should update the page.

[1] https://otpguard.com

jmole2• 8 days ago

My simple process is:

0) agent gets its own separate git user and ssh key, separate from mine

1) branch protection rules on main, only I can approve merges into main

2) any other ssh key uses (interactive login, direct git access, etc.) are ed25519-sk keys and require a touch on yubikey.

TBH, the biggest hole is that it can be unclear exactly what process is requesting a touch on the yubikey. Apple has a head start here because they can lock down the TouchID UX relatively well, but unfortunately they don’t seem to care about building a polished developer experience for 2FA on sensitive tasks.

They are probably waiting for someone else to build the right solution and then copy/steal it.

toomuchtodo• 8 days ago

Cobranding is just good marketing at minimal incremental spend when you're running off a batch of hardware.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13635798

UltraSane2• 8 days ago

I was actually thinking they would have to do this. Having to mail a physical token to a valid address is a extremely powerful access control method.

alberth• 8 days ago

Dumb question: is using the built in passkey support on my iPhone not considered “hardware-backed”, even though iPhone is using device biometrics?

kreitter• 8 days ago

It's a great deal — about 50% off — for those who already wanted a Yubikey.

https://www.yubico.com/store/partner/openai/

Interestingly, I had to switch to my unpaid OpenAI account to access it. I suspect this is because my paid account is registered to a custom.com email address.

onel• 8 days ago

I was looking at something similar a couple of days ago. I think a physical key like a yubi key is a great way to fight bot traffic. And apparently cloudflare already ran project to test this out, and found some small drawbacks. So they proposed CAP together with other orgs https://developers.cloudflare.com/fundamentals/reference/cry...

This might be an extreme case of that, but I can see us going in that direction

OpenAI mandates hardware-backed passkeys for Trusted Access Cyber members

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