I Did Not Kill Stanley Lieber: How to Draw (With 9front)

https://triapul.cz/automa/i_did_not_kill_stanley_lieber

by c-c-c-c-c • 13 days ago

106 43 13 days ago

2.3.5 Straight Line
Use a ruler.

Somehow, in spite of noting the unusual physicality of this approach, I was profoundly unprepared to see a physical ruler being used on a touchscreen. Nice.

jdboyd• 11 days ago

What was your reaction to the CD then?

yjftsjthsd-h3• 10 days ago

After the ruler that's less jarring. Although the fact that it's an XP disc is hilarious.

indrora• 10 days ago

I'm not sure what you expected.

yjftsjthsd-h3• 10 days ago

A digital/software line tool. They're drawing on a computer; I am very habituated to seeing things stay on the screen.

AdmiralAsshat• 11 days ago

Is the Stanley Lieber referred to by the title someone other than the Stanley Lieber (a.k.a. "Stan Lee") of Marvel Comics fame?

calvinmorrison• 11 days ago

Yes

Alien1Being• 11 days ago

When mankind comes to the final judgement, the existence of 9front will be one of the three things keeping us from destruction....

Apropos Pirkei Avot Chapter 1, Verse 2...

stavros2• 11 days ago

What's this? What's 9front? Who's Stanley Lieber? This is so confusing.

xelxebar• 11 days ago

9front is a fork of Plan 9, the operating system that runs Jurassic Park[0]. Stanley Leiber is a prominent contributor, albeit whose existence is humourously-but-seriously-maybe debated. The whole community has a post-ironic humor that is very GenZ but before GenZ was cool or even born.

The Plan 9 Foundation commissions local artists for it's swag at the annual workshops. I'm guessing this article is tangentially related.

I daily drive 9front, so I might be biased.

[0] https://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.1.1

stavros2• 11 days ago

Ahh I see, thank you.

mattmanser• 11 days ago

Is that gen z humour?

As it reads more to me like it's Douglas Adams humour, i.e. 1980s humour.

British, post-Python absurdist humour or whatever you'd call it.

ButlerianJihad3• 11 days ago

You must be joking about Jurassic Park, right?

The systems in Jurassic Park are clearly and obviously running IRIX on SGI workstations, and the girl character says as much when she recognizes Unix. The file system navigator app is famous from its appearance there.

Plan 9 has never been portrayed as a running system in Hollywood, because it has never run any system of consequence in real life either.

dsign2• 11 days ago

Deeply disappointed to read it doesn't work for iconoclasts.

kvdveer2• 11 days ago

Or atheists for that matter.

I was a bit put off by the implied hostility there, even if it was in jest. It's a risky choice to jokingly discriminate based on religion, ethnicity or political affiliation, mostly because such a joke is hard to distinguish from almost identical contexts where it isn't a joke.

benj1112• 11 days ago

Would the world be a better place if no one told any jokes that 'might' upset others?

I'm an atheist too. I just gave a middle finger to the author and carried on reading.

I haven't really delved that much onto 9front but they do have an interesting style, see for example https://9front.org/propaganda/ yes it's probably going to rub people up the wrong way, but at least it isn't more corporate bs.

oxonia• 11 days ago

Oy vey.

ori_b• 10 days ago

It sounds like it didn't appeal to at least one atheist. Truth in advertising.

dsign2• 10 days ago

Honestly, I don't take offense at the joke. There's a reason freedom of expression has some degree of protection in many countries, and it is so that people can slander each other's religion or lack of it with impunity. I mean, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be constitutionally protected if it were about football clubs' rivalries. So I slander God at every opportunity I get, while actually being an atheist, because I find the given solutions to the problem of evil abominable and have mild objections to the morality of whoever swallows said solutions. Though I would never bar people of faith from using an operating system I contribute to; why in hell would I deprive them of a platform to read my slander?

0xdeadbeefbabe• 10 days ago

There's a church of iconoclasts? Are they always starting over?

polotics• 11 days ago

this doesn't actually teach anything about how to draw. there is one thing about using a layer for drafting, but apart from that it is how to use this very specific piece of software if you already have some skills and techniques

2b3a51• 11 days ago

I think 'to draw' is ambiguous here. You took the phrase to mean 'some strategies and techniques for making good drawings' and the author possibly meant 'how to make marks like you would with normal painting software but working around the foibles of 9front's paint'.

But then the whole thing has to be seen as whimsical.

rakel_rakel• 11 days ago

People creating things that didn't exist before is so refreshing, and Prahou is such an amazing artist. Making it look easy (or for the untrained eye like silly scribbles on old thinkpads) he created a whole world around his characters, and the talent and rigor is super impressing.

I would recommend anyone to dive into it!

olivierestsage• 11 days ago

I’ve never used 9front but I love the whole culture around it in posts like these.

minusLik3• 11 days ago

Wacomized laptops with pens. Crack the screen open and draw on it.

I don't think "crack the screen open" is the best choice of words here …

Y_Y• 11 days ago

The author of this, pmjv, is also the champion of unix surrealism, which some of you may recognize and others may enjoy.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/unix_surrealism

egypturnash2• 10 days ago

I cannot help but feel like these drawing methods are more hassle than carrying around an actual sketchbook and a few pens/pencils. Whatever makes you happy, I guess; at least you're not typing shit into an image generator and saying this makes you a great artist.

minusLik3• 10 days ago

But sketchbooks don't run 9front :(

egypturnash2• 9 days ago

Overall I feel like this is more of an advantage than a problem.

I Did Not Kill Stanley Lieber: How to Draw (With 9front)

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