Ask HN: Who here would agree to replace parliaments with LLMs?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48705194

by julienreszka • 25 days ago

4 12 25 days ago

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no way llms can be worse than what we have now (absolute gerontocratic retardation) and i think the tech is now good enough.

smt882• 25 days ago

So you want a black box controlled by billionaires to replace democracy?

julienreszka2• 25 days ago

is that your worst possible strawman?

it’s much easier to audit than the black box that are human gerontocrats and who also are corruptible by billionaires

smt882• 24 days ago

If you think LLMs can be audited, you don’t know literally the first thing about them.

Gerontocrats can’t be audited, but they can be fined and jailed. Neural networks have no fear consequences.

rvz• 25 days ago

As much as we don't want a gerontocracy, the idea to replace parliaments with "LLMs" absolutely makes no sense.

It is not possible to solve social issues with technical solutions as there is always room to game the rules or hack them. Instead, this turns into a light-technocracy - ruled purely by technical experts or government by algorithm.

Who controls the LLM when it goes wrong or needs updating? Voting would likely cease to exist and it is still possible for corruption.

There are many separate technical issues with LLMs that I won't get into here, but there are better solutions to solve this issue such as introducing a fixed maximum age limit instead.

Borg3• 25 days ago

Dont. Its super stupid idea. I said it before but I will said it again. AI/LLM with current form is pure stupidty. Humans try to move their highest asset, aka Inteligence, analitical thinking, science into AI. Like fucking what? This is what made humans colonize entire planet. Not because they are strong and resistant spieces, but because they are inteligent and addaptive. If you want to offload that to AI, then humans arent really needed. Why would you need billions of consumers (paracities) that dont do anything usefull? Waste of fucking resources.

This is needed now, because it generates income to billionaries. Now focus. With current trend, when we replace workforce with automation and AI, humans are needed less and less. So billionaries can build they autonomic empires with AI/robots all around, no need to humans. Thats like dream for them, never ending fun, and no need to worry about billions of people to feed and keep them in check. Biggest loosers of this are all those scientists and engineers who are cutting branch they sit on... For suck a smart people, they are really stupid and shotsighted..

What is needed is technocracy. Democracy is a failure. How billions of consumers can elect someone smart? Not really possible. We need smart people to rule the system, not AI. If we put AI on charge, humans will be eliminated, because its just burden to the planet.

Interesting system existed in Japan, from 50s to 90s. A War Economy adapted to make consumers goods. It worked very well, to the point that US was pissed off because it couldnt compete. So they put smart plan to invert it. And they suceeded.

beardyw• 25 days ago

no way llms can be worse than what we have now (absolute gerontocratic retardation)

What you are describing is democracy gone very very wrong, more or less to the point where it is no longer democracy.

nosioptar• 25 days ago

I want to say replacing a legislative body with AI is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. But...

AI is soulless, skeevy, moronic, incompetent, and owned by the pedophilic ruling class, which makes it indistinguishable from Congress.

If tokens are cheaper than current congressional salaries, I say fuck it, why not?

gus_massa2• 24 days ago

Are you from USA?

I just checked that the average there is 58 and 64 years. Here in Argentina, it's 53 and 58.

Here we have multy seat districts, so you can choose to vote fror a party with only young members. But I don't remember any that use that as a slogan.

bicepjai• 23 days ago

Someone using the parliament is usually from Europe. Americans tend to use the word congress

gus_massa2• 23 days ago

After a few quick search in Google, I made a table:

  US 58 64
  AR 53 58
  BR 50 56
  MX 45 51
  UK 49 70
  DE 45 --
  FR 48 59

tim-tday• 24 days ago

They can absolutely be worse.

Hallucination Prompt injection Can’t count Obsequious to a fault Trivially swayed

https://www.inc.com/ben-sherry/an-ai-ran-a-vending-machine-f...

This news (and things like it) have been all over. The fact that you decided without doing the least bit of research that “no way LLMs can be worse” displays catastrophically shortsighted judgement. Please recuse yourself from any important decisions for the foreseeable future.

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