Ask NH: What online game is suitable for contests?

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by btw0 • 17 years ago

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I am going to start a web startup, it needs an online game that users can play, and thousands of them can be ranked according to their scores. I have done quit a lot research about this, but failed to find a suitable one.

I thought about all kinds of puzzle games like sudoku, people can be ranked by the time they use to solve, but the problem is it's easy to cheat with a sudoku solver program.

I thought about tetris, but the game is everywhere and too easy.

What I need is a culture-neutral game that's basically fun (kind of addictive), and can give every player a score, hard to cheat, and can be implemented in the browser preferably using Javascript. Any idea?

jacquesm2• 17 years ago

multi player 'snake'

btw0• 17 years ago

Because ranking is very important in my startup idea. In real time games like "snake", players' performance depends too much on their network connections.

The idea game (javascript code) would be able to be downloaded via players' browser, and when the game is over the browser send final scores to the server, of course I will do the something to ensure they can't trick the server by hacking on the client side. Javascript tetris can work like this, but as I mentioned the it's just a little too ubiquitous.

jacquesm2• 17 years ago

> real time games like "snake", players' performance depends too much on their network connections.

That sounds like a challenge to me ! Solve that one and you've got it made, I think some kind of pipelining of game state changes should be possible. Remember, the only requirement for a real time multi player networked game is that it should make sense to whoever is looking at this screen, if you put two screens side-by-side then you are allowed to have differences. As long as it all works out again by game-over.

chris11• 17 years ago

It sounds like you are wanting to have your startup be built around a single game. If you are wanting to do that, you probably shouldn't use a casual game. Games with persistent worlds seem to be popular. Also, text based mmorpgs can attract a fair amount of people.

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If you want a casual game, why have only one? There is one huge problem with casual games. You will have to code the game in such a way that it will be hard for the average person to find the memory address for the game variables.

Cheat Engine is an easy to use memory scanner that allows people to easily cheat at games. It will index all addresses for a program, for example firefox, and then let you search for them. So I can start out by indexing all addresses while playing a game, then increase a variable. Then I can search that index for all memory addresses whose values have increased. So basically I can edit almost any value in the game as it's easily observable So if you want to make the game hard to cheat, it's going to be somewhat difficult. What you need to do is to keep track track of the variables and check to see if they have suddenly changed.Maybe map x to y using a non linear transformation, and if there is ever a time where x does not map to y, you know the player is cheating. Or you could just accept input from the player and do the calculations concerning the score on your server.

http://cheatengine.org/aboutce.php Cheat Engine in use:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd4kf6ID1Hc&feature=relat...

Ask NH: What online game is suitable for contests?

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