Windows Phone 8 live event (10 AM PT)

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/presskits/windowsphone/liveevent.aspx

by octopus • 14 years ago

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ssmoot• 14 years ago

You'd think a launch would be geared to play to the widest audience. Disappointing that the presentation requires Silverlight to view. Wasn't Silverlight EOLed?

gebe2• 14 years ago

There's a Flash (another why) stream as well at the bottom of the page: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/presskits/windowsphone/l...

rbanffy2• 14 years ago

"Please Install Silverlight to view this content"

They'll never learn.

octopus• 14 years ago

Try the alternate stream for Flash (bottom of the page).

quotemstr• 14 years ago

> They'll never learn.

I'm with Microsoft. There must be something wrong with the implants: I've been here for years and still don't understand the culture. I don't understand why people use "ask" as a noun instead of "request"; I don't understand why almost every here uses "Microsoft Tag" instead of universal, ubiquitous-in-the-outside-world QR codes; and I don't understand why we still create websites using Silverlight instead of moving to Flash or HTML5.

Don't people realize how transparently sycophantic they look when they use a technology that's dead to the outside world? Depending on the day, I feel like either 1) some people are so insulated from the outside world that they believe Silverlight yet lives, 2) they know Silverlight is dead and are terrified of the wrath of LCA coming down upon from for installing non-Microsoft software on their work computers, or 3) they're savvy, but trying to use as much jargon and proprietary stuff as possible in order to project a false image of group cohesion and loyalty come review time.

grecy• 14 years ago

Maybe it's

4) They are so caught up in bureaucracy and mindless tasks they actually don't even know what Silverlight is, and why it's dying/dead.

jmspring• 14 years ago

Silverlight is dead?

Funny, I believe that is what Netflix uses to stream to the desktop. Also, given the install base of Windows, I am pretty sure most everyday users have it installed.

I'm a Mac person myself and only fire up Chrome when I need Flash. I've got silverlight installed across all browsers -- mainly due to netflix. That said, I see "web designers" doing more annoying sites with Flash (mmm...embedded video that auto plays with volume) than I do with Silverlight.

Just a thought.

underwater• 14 years ago

Why would you work there if you dislike it so much you feel it's necessary to criticize them in a public forum?

lucb1e• 14 years ago

The alternative method plays fine here on Linux Mint with Chrome, opens a stream in movie player.

mbrubeck• 14 years ago

The "Metro" version of IE10 doesn't even support Silverlight... I had to switch to the desktop UI on my Windows 8 device.

kemoly• 14 years ago

How is that different from Apple streaming only to OS X / iOS devices?

steverb4• 14 years ago

I'm surprised they didn't cancel to keep from competing with the hurricane.

On the other hand, there's not much other news than the hurricane, so it might be a smart move.

jbigelow76• 14 years ago

Be on the lookout for more stealth Zynga layoffs.

Toshio• 14 years ago

They are demoing the phone operating system on an HTC device.

Yay for Nokia locking themselves into this OS and not even getting that small token of appreciation.

steverb4• 14 years ago

I thought they were switching back and forth between the HTC and the Nokia...

I wasn't really paying attention, but I'm sure I saw a big yellow phone at some point.

gebe2• 14 years ago

Yeah, Ballmer is presenting all of the brands at the moment. I noticed that he even pocketed the Nokia, I wonder if that was part of the deal ;)

steverb4• 14 years ago

Syncing music from iTunes to Windows Phone now. That's a nice way to help break the iPhone lock in.

dvdhsu• 14 years ago

Palm used to allow syncing through iTunes as well. Every time Apple updated iTunes, it would lock out the Palm Pre; Palm, then, would issue a software update that re-enabled the functionality:

> Since the Palm Pre first became available this summer, Palm has issued several updates to its mobile operating system, causing iTunes software to recognize the phone as an Apple music player, allowing it to synchronize and transfer files between the phone and a personal computer. Apple has repeatedly disabled the syncing feature in subsequent software updates to iTunes. [1]

Eventually, "Palm filed a complaint with the USB Implementers Forum", but the forum "rebuffed" Palm's claims. From then on, the Palm Pre could no longer sync with iTunes.

I see that Microsoft isn't masquerading their phone as an iPod (or iPhone?) like Palm did, and is instead releasing a separate app on their own (MacSync, according to Wired [2]), so it's harder for Apple to stop them. I would guess that they're directly importing the iTunes files on the disk, but if the idea is so simple, why didn't Palm do the same thing? Why would they risk going through iTunes?

The harder it was for Microsoft to implement, the easier it will be for Apple to disable. I wonder what Apple will do now.

1. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/palm-drops-itunes-w...

2. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/10/liveblog-microsoft-ro...

mikestew• 14 years ago

Palm got rebuffed because they masqueraded as an Apple product. The USB-IF understandably didn't like that.

It won't be "harder for Apple to stop" Microsoft because Apple is unlikely to even try to do so. Apple has a documented method for accessing the iTunes library (RIM and others used it). Even if there were not an approved way to do it, the database is in XML so it should be relatively easy to work with it. Why Palm took the route they did mystifies me.

So what will Apple do now, you ask? Nothing, more than likely.

JEVLON• 14 years ago

Windows Phone 7 connector is available on the Mac app store. It could do with a name change for Windows Phone 8.

https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/windows-phone-7-connector/id...

majormajor• 14 years ago

I didn't see the event, do you happen to know how this is different than the Windows Phone Connector stuff for WP7 on Mac? It hooks into Aperture/iPhoto/iTunes and lets you sync with them (I really miss the Aperture integration after moving my photo workstation to Lightroom on my desktop PC, actually—it was super convenient).

Or is it for syncing WP music to iTunes on Windows? Don't think there's any built-in way to do that currently for WP7.

steverb4• 14 years ago

I believe it is the same thing, but I won't swear to it. That it did it at all was news to me.

lini• 14 years ago

I wish Google would add time zone conversions to their search. I had to resort to WA[1] to find out what time is the event in Europe.

[1]https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10+am+PT+to+GMT

shadowfiend• 14 years ago

You can get the current time in the other time zone (try time in <location/code>), but yeah, an actual conversion would be pretty handy. And seemingly a very simple step from there.

dm8• 14 years ago

You can also search, "time in Seattle" (in Google) and it'll show current time at that place. And you can do time difference calculations.

shrikant• 14 years ago

I use http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/ - ridiculously convenient.

yskchu• 14 years ago

World Time Buddy is another good one: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com

malkia• 14 years ago

Barely visible choice of white letters on yellow background (at least for me, it could be that live is better)

smegel• 14 years ago

Am I really watching a Silverlight video in Google Chrome? How the hell is this working?!

ygra• 14 years ago

NPAPI. You could do the same in Firefox. Or Safari. Even on a Mac.

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