Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/10/circumcision-classed-as-possible-child-abuse-in-draft-cps-document

by isomorph • 6 months ago

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Der_Einzige3• 6 months ago

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malfist• 6 months ago

I don't believe there are very many circumcision single issue voters

Der_Einzige3• 6 months ago

That's because of the IRL SCP object! Destroy it and they will soon exist in droves!

bilbo0s• 6 months ago

You are shortsighted.

What Trump has proven is that millions of single issue voters can be created on any issue if a political party desires it.

Underestimating this reality will only keep political parties that depend on unwritten rules of decorum from winning more and more elections.

There are now new unwritten rules of election issue decorum. Which is to say there are no longer any unspoken rules of election issue decorum. I'd strongly urge everyone to acclimate themselves to that reality sooner rather than later.

soldthat• 6 months ago

WTF is a “Ketar class SCP object”?

leggerss• 6 months ago

This is satire, right? Or reasoning by analogy... right??

I looked up "SCP object", and boy that was a rabbit hole. Interesting and entertaining, sure. But if you "fully believe" in anything on that website, please try to confirm your reality with observations or lived experience rather than text from the internet.

Here's an excerpt from SCP's "Guide For Newcomers"[1]:

This is the SCP Foundation Wiki, a collaborative writing site based around the premise that… in essence, magic is real. It's not exactly like the traditional fantasy style magic you've come to know, but that's the best way we can describe the stuff we have here - Anomalies; items and critters that do not follow the rules of nature as we know them. Staircases that go on forever, mechanical gods from the beginning of time, otherwise regular humans who reshape reality with their mind: these are the kinds of things that, if known to the public, could cause mass hysteria and start wars on scales unprecedented. Due to that, there exists an organization called the SCP Foundation, whose job is to research paranormal activity, keep these creatures and objects concealed from the public, and protect humanity from the horrors of the dark.

[1] https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/guide-for-newcomers

cramsession• 6 months ago

I don't believe in that and it sounds totally out there, yet it's far less extreme than infant genital mutilation.

sporkxrocket2• 6 months ago

Good, it's barbaric child abuse. No other form of permanent body modification surgery (especially to genitals!) would be allowed on infants who can't consent. An adult wants to get circumcised? Go for it. It's pretty wild that we allow it on babies that can't even speak.

dang3• 6 months ago

We've banned this account for using HN exclusively for political/ideological/national/religious battle and ignoring our requests to stop. That's not allowed here, regardless of which political position you're advocating.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

(Before somebody pounces with "so we're not allowed to post about $TOPIC now?": no, I'm not secretly advocating for circumcision (of all things) and this comment is not about $TOPIC. I just had to hang it somewhere so I chose the most recent thread.

The issue is the overall pattern of the account's behavior, which is clearly against HN's rules.)

sporkxrocket2• 6 months ago

Oh, but every Zionist gets to stay. We know you're a tool for censorship dang.

You happily let this account continue: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=soldthat

somewhereoutth• 6 months ago

As it should be.

However this practice has become deeply culturally ingrained, whether through religion or other custom, so it is going to be a hard slog to eradicate it worldwide.

kyleee2• 6 months ago

Definitely, and unfortunately. FGM is also on the rise in Europe :(

Fire-Dragon-DoL• 6 months ago

“enormously powerful symbolic act of identity”.

That's revolting in a way. Identity OF THE PARENT, not of the baby who definitely doesn't know.

And maybe the teenager doesn't want to have that identity, but now it's too late

odyssey73• 6 months ago

Also: given the historic role of circumcision in religious and cultural conversion, one could view infant circumcision as removing that possibility for certain religious or cultural conversions later in life. In this sense, it might be viewed as culturally immunizing as well as being a cultural marker.

AndrewKemendo• 6 months ago

Finally taking this seriously as what it is: religious genital mutilation

just_the_tip2• 6 months ago

In 1996 the Federal Prohibition of Female Genital Mutilation Act made it illegal to perform FGM on minors for non-medical reasons, and in 2013 the Transport for Female Genital Mutilation Act prohibited transporting a minor out of the country for the purpose of FGM.

Male genital mutilation on minors for non-medical reasons should also be made illegal. It is amazing Medicaid still pays for it in many states. The American Academy of Pediatrics is failing the United States.

pseudohadamard• 6 months ago

Female genital mutilation is done by Them, and bad. Male genital mutilation is done by Us, and not bad.

sedawk• 6 months ago

I had to read it twice to get your point, well said!

kyleee2• 6 months ago

It should be, right along with FGM

HiPhish• 6 months ago

I have seen babies with pierced ears and studs. Even when there is no religious pressure some people are just so sick in their head, they will have their babies put through mutilation just because they think it looks "cute". Those people deserve to have railroad spikes driven through their skin.

I would advocate for banning all non-necessary body modification on small children. And before anyone tells me "it's better to do it when they are small, then they won't remember it": no remembering the source of a trauma makes is even worse. That's like saying date rape drugs are no big deal because the victim can't remember it.

odyssey73• 6 months ago

There isn’t an equivalence between pierced ears, which is reversible, and circumcision, which is not.

DoctorOetker5• 6 months ago

the discussion got flagged

why is it not possible to vouch for the discussion?

edanm• 6 months ago

It is not possible to vouch for any discussion, afaik. Only comments.

DoctorOetker5• 6 months ago

I asked "why" it is impossible not "if" it is.

dang3• 6 months ago

It's flagged but not dead. These are not the same thing. See https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Also:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39676944

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38918548

stranded22• 6 months ago

Good. It is barbaric and mutilation.

attqqq• 6 months ago

Baffling that male genital mutilation persists to this day due to momentum, misinformation, and a small religious niche alone. Really makes me think there’s an empathy gap between gendered issues. 1996 we got rid of FGM, yet 30 years later baby boys still get their tips of their penis cut off, often incorrectly/too far.

Humbling reminder we really are a bunch of well dressed apes playing house, I forget that sometimes

mieses• 6 months ago

hackers gonna hack

Circumcision classed as possible child abuse in draft CPS document

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