Even Realities Smart Glasses: G2

https://www.evenrealities.com/smart-glasses

by gessha • 8 months ago

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ktallett3• 8 months ago

I like the idea a lot more than other implementations (although I still think the original google glass was great), but I do feel the market for these, outside of the bankers and financial industry that loves to show off with tech, is primarily dorks like myself, and dorks like myself often like to be able to fiddle. The fact I can't be trusted to install applications that I can make as I go with an easy to use api seems a mistake. I see the even hub but that seems far off considering there is no details about it.

geraldwhen• 8 months ago

No open App Store is a non starter.

stavros• 8 months ago

Oof, yeah. Why do I want this if I can't run code on it? Useless.

j-bos• 8 months ago

The fact I can't be trusted to install applications that I can make as I go

Thanks this was key in deciding whether to consider this brand at all.

KurSix3• 8 months ago

Google Glass at least gave devs something to play with out of the gate

boriskourt2• 8 months ago

I wonder how they handle the whole notification stack with iOS. Did anyone try the first one? A lot of non-apple wearables have issues with that.

throawayonthe• 8 months ago

there's an ai lol

volemo9• 8 months ago

Isn’t AI everywhere nowadays? I won’t be surprised if there’re AI toasters and fridges.

cjs_ac• 8 months ago

I really like the aesthetic of these, both the glasses themselves and the UI. However, I have the same problem with these as with smartwatches: the apps don't solve any of my problems.

amelius2• 8 months ago

the apps don't solve any of my problems

Reminds me of when dumbphones were introduced and people said things like why do I need to have a phone with me all the time.

Eisenstein• 8 months ago

I don't remember anyone saying that.

chrischen4• 8 months ago

Real time translations is a real good use case. The problem is most implementations such as the Airpods live translate are not great.

jhugo2• 8 months ago

I have the G1 glasses and unfortunately the microphones are terrible, so the live translation feature barely works. Even if you sit in a quiet room and try to make conditions perfect, the accuracy of transcription is very low. If you try to use it out on the street it rarely gets even a single word correct.

makeitdouble2• 8 months ago

I've been in many situations where I wanted translations, and I can't think of one where I'd actually want to rely on either glasses or the airpods working like they do in the demos.

The crux of it for me:

- if it's not a person it will be out of sync, you'll be stopping it every 10 sec to get the translation. One could as well use their phone, it would be the same, and there's a strong chance the media is already playing from there so having the translation embedded would be an option.

- with a person, the other person needs to understand when your translation in going on, and when it's over, so they know when to get an answer or know they can go on. Having a phone in plain sight is actually great for that.

- the other person has no way to check if your translation is completely out of whack. Most of the time they have some vague understanding, even if they can't really speak. Having the translation in the glasses removes any possible control.

There are a ton of smaller points, but all in all the barrier for a translation device to become magic and just work plugged in your ear or glasses is so high I don't expect anything beating a smartphone within my lifetime.

DrewADesign• 8 months ago

And I hate the aesthetics of them (for me,) which is going to be a huge problem for the smart glasses world. Glasses dramatically change how you look, so few frames look good on more than a handful of face types, and that’s not even considering differences in personal style. Unless you come up with a core that can be used in a bunch of different frame shapes I can’t see any of these being long term products.

KurSix3• 8 months ago

The hardware can look amazing, but if the software doesn't offer something meaningfully better than pulling out your phone, it ends up as an expensive novelty

KaiserPro2• 8 months ago

Nice idea, but no world lock rendering (Thats hard so we'll let them off)

However you are limited in what you can do.

there are no speakers, which they pitch as a "simpler quieter interface" which is great but it means that _all_ your interactions are visual, even if they don't need to be.

I'm also not sure about the microphone setup, if you're doing voice assistant, you need beamforming/steering.

However, the online context in "conversate" mode is quite nice. I wonder how useful it is. they hint at proper context control "we can remember your previous conversations" but thats a largely unsolved problem on large machines, let alone on device.

volemo9• 8 months ago

Why would you need world lock rendering on a 640x350 monochrome display? It’s a personal dashboard, not a “spatial computer”.

KaiserPro2• 8 months ago

maps, but also being able to move your head so that you can see past the thing on the screen is useful.

For people who are prone to motion sickness, its also really useful to have it tied to the global frame. (I don't have that, fortunately)

nylonstrung• 8 months ago

I bought this but ultimately returned it as it didn't really solve any problems due to being a complete walled garden with very sparse functionality right now

It's a cool form factor but the built-in transcription, ai etc are not very well implemented and I cannot imagine a user viewing this as essential rather than a novelty gadget

sprash2• 8 months ago

complete walled garden

Not really. You can build your own apps [1].

1.: https://github.com/even-realities/EvenDemoApp

throwuxiytayq• 8 months ago

Not enough. I am not putting any hardware on my nose if I can't fully control the software running on it. Is the OS open source?

embedding-shape2• 8 months ago

Seems they even included a hard-coded API key for DeepSeek's API that still work, doesn't exactly leave great confidence in their engineering.

einpoklum• 8 months ago

I've never used any smart glasses, but I do wear prescription glasses ("dumb" glasses?); don't these smart glasses products all clash with the field of prescription lenses? I mean, either they each have to provide the entire possible range of correction profiles, for use instead of what people wear now, or they need to be attachable/overlays for regular prescription glasses - which is complicated and doesn't look like what the providers are doing ATM. Or - am I getting it wrong?

ChrisMarshallNY2• 8 months ago

Things like Vision and Quest have the ability to adapt to vision issues, but these things likely don’t.

I guess they could use a common “generic” form factor, that would allow prescription lenses to be ordered.

That said, this is really the ideal form factor (think Dale, in Questionable Content), and all headsets probably want to be it, when they grow up.

boriskourt2• 8 months ago

These offer a wide-ish profile of prescription lens options within the three lens types they support. It is definitely not the full gamut though.

swiftcoder3• 8 months ago

I love how every player in this space is just building exactly the same product, and no of them seems to have a compelling pitch why someone would need their product

dbbk2• 8 months ago

Teleprompter is pretty original and compelling

swiftcoder3• 8 months ago

I guess. I mean... how often do you use an actual teleprompter? I'm guessing apart from politicians and newscasters, the answer is pretty much never.

fsiefken• 8 months ago

For me it's like the pebble in smart glasses land, simple and elegant. Less is more, just calendar, tasks, notes and AI. The rest I can do on my laptop or phone (with or without other display glasses). I do wish there's a way to use the LLM on my android phone with it and if possible write my own app for it. So I am not dependent on the internet and have my HUD/G2 as a lightweight custom made AI assistent.

qweiopqweiop2• 8 months ago

Am I the only one who feels hesitant to even interact with someone wearing smart glasses? I have no idea if they could be recording me.

KurSix3• 8 months ago

It's similar to how people felt when Google Glass first showed up. Until there's some universally understood signal like a visible recording light (that can't be turned off), I think that unease is going to stick around

qweiopqweiop2• 8 months ago

Even with a light, a just made a quick google search and the top reddit thread is about how easy it is to cover up with black nail paint.

volemo9• 8 months ago

These particular classes don’t have a camera.

jtrn2• 8 months ago

The only thing that matters is how easily I can customize what is shown on the screen. Everything else is probably just annoying, like the translation or map feature, which I assume will be finicky and useless. If the ring had four-way arrows and ok/back buttons, and the glasses had a proper SDK for creating basic navigation and retrieval, such as the ability to communicate with HTTP APIs, there would be no limit to the useful things I could create. However, if I'm forced to use built-in applications only, I have very little faith that it would actually be useful, considering how bad the last generation of applications for these devices was.

amelius2• 8 months ago

The only thing that matters is how easily I can customize what is shown on the screen.

What matters more is how they support different eye-distances (interpupillary distance, IPD).

jtrn2• 8 months ago

I assumed that the display is actually watchable, as it seems to be. I have multiple AR and VR glasses, and I have never gotten fed up with them due to an inability to view the content properly. But having to struggle with getting it to show the content I want...

For instance, the teleprompter is terrible and buggy when it tries to follow along based on voice. A simple clicker for moving forward in a text file would be better than how it currently works.

How many people say they lost interest due to ocular issues versus complaints that it’s just not useful?

Seriously. A simple file browser with support for text files only would be more useful than the finicky G1 apps.

Of course visual issues could occur for someone, but it’s so aggravating that the they can’t just put in some sort of customization for content properly

spigottoday• 8 months ago

Under support a number of policies are listed. The privacy policy is not one of them. No thanks.

ripped_britches• 8 months ago

If you run this site, look into making your images more compressed! Takes forever to load them

beeflet2• 8 months ago

I don't have time to fiddle around with some locked-in ecosystem in exchange a little more productivity or the ability to pretend not to be using my computer. And I don't even have a day job.

If it was just a heads-up display for android like xreal, but low power and wireless that might be cool for when I'm driving. But everyone wants to make AI glasses locked into their own ecosystem. Everyone wants to displace the smartphone, from the Rabbit R1 to the new ray-bans. It's impossible.

In the end this tech will all get democratized and open sourced anyways, so I have to hand it to Meta and others for throwing money around and doing all this free R&D for the greater good.

hereme8882• 8 months ago

So we're already used to people looking crazy talking to themselves (talking via BT headphones).

Now we're going to see people's eyes moving around like crazy.

volemo9• 8 months ago

Would that attract your attention? I see people with nystagmus often enough to not care.

hereme8882• 8 months ago

It would. I don't know if you mean people reading phone screens or on drugs or what, but I rarely ever see it outside clinical settings.

Even Realities Smart Glasses: G2

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