The EV tax credit is dead – here's what happens next

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by occamschainsaw • 10 months ago

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mcc1ane• 10 months ago

https://archive.ph/r5ePL

rayiner5• 10 months ago

We should dispense with this Obama-era “nudge” nonsense and simply ban gas cars.

pcdoodle• 10 months ago

That way only the rich can drive! Put the rest of the cattle of public transit. /s

triceratops5• 10 months ago

I'll believe this "ackchually cars are essential for poor people" nonsense when the biggest selling car in America isn't a massive, expensive pickup truck.

It's financially disastrous for poor people to take a loan to buy a depreciating asset that sits parked 95% of the time. And requires monthly expenses for insurance and parking.

Moving to EVs means middle- and upper-middle class people have a decision to make: spend money on switching, or join everyone else in public transit.

thebruce87m• 10 months ago

I keep getting told that EVs have massive depreciation, so can’t people buy one if these massively depreciated vehicles?

ZeroGravitas• 10 months ago

What people don't realise is that the bans that are discussed as big government overreach are actually for the benefit of large corporations to coordinate.

They each know that without time boxed regulation they'd all try to defect and let the others take the early losses leading to the entire industry collapsing.

It's fixing a prisoners dilemma.

JohnFen3• 10 months ago

That would be a disaster unless we build public transit systems that are actually good first.

rayiner5• 10 months ago

Keep your eye on the climate change ball. We have a perfectly acceptable drop in replacement for gas cars in the form of EVs. This is not the time for your urbanism fetish or massive social engineering.

Schiendelman• 10 months ago

I looked at your comment history because we agree on a lot!

This is an interesting one. Public transit can pretty much only be built after there is demand. Because we limit growth so much, there are very few places where we have allowed growth that would support transit.

If you were to overturn land use regulation as a whole, you would get dense places, and then we could get more transit...

triceratops5• 10 months ago

This is a terrible idea and I love it!

I like the goal: no more gasoline cars. And if governments can grow a pair and set a realistic end date for them it would work out great. A suggested timeline: no gasoline cars manufactured after 2028, no new sales after 2030, complete road ban after 2037 unless you buy carbon offsets etc.

The roadmap I suggested above is already highly aggressive and will generate massive pushback. Doing it overnight would be disastrous. No politician will do it while Americans remain in love with their gasoline tanks.

hollerith• 10 months ago

In contrast, I prefer the least restrictive laws and regulations that achieve the goal.

Our nation's continuing to emit a little CO2 from automobile tailpipes is not so dire a danger that we can't meet our goal with a sufficiently drastic tax on fossil fuels, enabling those few consumers and organizations that benefit the most from emitting CO2 from automobile tailpipes to continue to emit a little.

It is hard for policymakers even to imagine all the ways an outright ban on something will incur costs -- and most of the time, they shouldn't even try.

Ekaros• 10 months ago

I think we should at same time also do total ban of private use of any fossil fuels. No more gas or oil or other fossil fuels. Only renewables and biomass. No private company or person is allowed to burn any fossil fuel inside economic borders.

The EV tax credit is dead – here's what happens next

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