U.S. drinking rate at new low as alcohol concerns surge

https://news.gallup.com/poll/693362/drinking-rate-new-low-alcohol-concerns-surge.aspx

by sfjailbird • 11 months ago

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mlinhares• 11 months ago

This is an amazing thing, hope smoking remains low and betting in general gets under control as well. Then phones and social networks.

jgwil2• 11 months ago

All else being equal, yes, less alcohol consumption is better. But I worry that this trend is related to the decline of in-person socializing in general.

sometimes_all• 11 months ago

But I worry that this trend is related to the decline of in-person socializing in general

In my eyes, it is worrying that drinking and socializing are treated adjacent to each other, and that there is a notion that people cannot socialize without drinks involved.

This correlation tie-up makes it really difficult for people to quit drinking even if they want to, and for people to reluctantly take up drinking in an (IMO misguided) effort to find company.

moi23885• 11 months ago

“ recent research indicating that any level of alcohol consumption may negatively affect health”

Really now? Any amount? So you claim you can detect any negative effects in any capacity if I drank a single drop of alcohol 20 years ago?

Hard doubt.

They probably meant that even “light drinking” can have negative effects. Whatever that amount is..

wjnc• 11 months ago

Read it kindly, not literally. The missing word is probably “[persistent] consumption” and measurement in standard units of alcohol (not mmol or pl).

moi23885• 11 months ago

Sure, I indeed think they mean that. So, which amount actually does start to show negative effects? 1 drink per 10 years? Per year? Per month? Per week?

I’d prefer actual data and correct statements.

zmgsabst• 11 months ago

But extrapolation can fail.

Eg, people often say any amount of radiation is bad, but there’s evidence that isn’t true. If you’re going to make a similar claim about alcohol, you should justify it.

“Persistent consumption above some threshold” is a radically different claim than “any amount”; and you should quantify that in both respects.

aaronblohowiak2• 11 months ago

Your rebuttal is to a claim that wasn’t made

moi23885• 11 months ago

The claim is a direct quote from the artcile..

aitchnyu• 11 months ago

From at least 2018, medical research says that the first drop starts to harm. In 2023, WHO adopted that position.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/alcohol-and-your-health-...

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-...

moi23885• 11 months ago

Then I hereby want to bet £1000,- for any physician which can test me and tell me how much alcohol I’ve drank the past 20 years, if they claim they can see the damage in any kind.

amrocha• 11 months ago

Everyone is doing coke instead

vinni2• 11 months ago

And weed consumption is high.

dole• 11 months ago

Will increase as legalization and normalization; lounges, infused foods and beverages replace alcohol as an acceptable social lubricant. People were partaking clandestinely, COVID certainly accelerated the market.

U.S. drinking rate at new low as alcohol concerns surge

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