Arab states call on Hamas to disarm and relinquish power in unprecedented move

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/30/middleeast/arab-league-hamas-gaza-israel-intl

by nailer • 12 months ago

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thisislife2• 12 months ago

It's an indication of how much the political landscape of the middle-east has changed. Prior Arab leaders had a sense of pride and independence about their region, and even stood up to the superpowers when they interfered in their politics (as much they could). Arab leaders today are mostly American pawns. Future generation of Arabs will woe at the short-sightedness of their leaders in allowing the current Israeli-right to cull the Palestinians and occupy Gaza, and parts of Syria and Lebanon, to work on their "Greater Israel" project and expand their power in the region. Arab leaders should also be genuinely ashamed that they chose to be bystanders as Palestinians are being slaughtered, instead of working together to pressure Netanyahu's government to end the genocide in Gaza and make him face international justice as a war criminal for his crimes against humanity. Instead, they don't even have the political foresight to understand that they are being manipulated to protect Netanyahu's interest.

throwawayhumus• 12 months ago

Or perhaps they have matured and understand that the current war in Gaza was caused by Hamas' actual crime against humanity on October 7th and their continued strategy to cause bloodshed.

If you remove Hamas there is not longer any justification for the war and Israel would have to stop, Us support would evaporate, too. This would be the best way to protect civilians on all sides and to push for longer term negotiations.

There is a big difference between supporting Palestinians and supporting Hamas, which seems to be lost on many.

In fact, it is a big mistake for France and the UK to recognise a Palestinian state without conditions as it in effect vindicates Hamas and so can only create move violence.

nivertech4• 12 months ago

Your first and last sentences are correct.

But those in the middle are wrong.

zhengiszen3• 12 months ago

Your theory crumbles under the tacit lies of omission.

In fact, Hamas didn't exist in 1948 or even in 1967... At those time Israel was already doing ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

runarberg4• 12 months ago

I think it is very sad that people are still blaming other people than Israel for the Gaza Genocide. Hamas is not doing the Gaza genocide, and yet we regularly see Hamas being blamed for it.

I will offer an alternative theory from yours: If you remove Hamas it is still quite likely that Israel will find a different justification in a different time for their genocide, and would conduct it anyway with Western aid and complicity.

NomDePlum6• 12 months ago

There is also a big difference between supporting a peaceful resolution to the current situation and not acknowledging that Israel has played a huge part in the current situation prior to October 7th and has participated in genocide and ethnic cleansing after.

The existence of settlements in Palestinian land is not something the International community should have tolerated for days never mind decades.

There are lots of parties, including Hamas, that could have helped avoid where we are today. A shameful place for the whole world.

zhengiszen3• 12 months ago

Zionists always start the story with “October 7th” for a reason.

Go back just a week earlier, and the mask starts to crack.

Go back seventy-five years, and it shatters completely.

Sabinus• 12 months ago

Allegedly this is big news.

It's a positive development. The actual support of a functioning Palestinian government by surrounding states is crucial for peace and a two-state deal. Some states have actually volunteered peacekeeping forces.

tim333• 12 months ago

Well, it's a step forward but I doubt Hamas will do so.

NomDePlum6• 12 months ago

The second step should be for Western states to call on Israel to disarm and relinquish control of Gaza and the West Bank.

Hamas cannot be trusted to oversee the Palestinian people for the sake of Israel then Israel cannot be trusted to oversee Gaza and the West Bank for the sake of the world.

Genocide and ethnic cleansing are the latest attrocity, they need to be the last.

Gibbon12• 12 months ago

If you're going to make statements like that you should at least know your history.

Egypt ended up with Gaza after the 1948 Arab Israeli war. They controlled Gaza until the 6 day war when they lost it and the Sinai Peninsula. Israel offered to give Gaza back to Egypt as part of the Camp David accords but Egypt didn't want it. Israel abandoned Gaza to Hamas in 2007. But after 10/7 they've decided that was a mistake.

So yeah you can demand all you want that Israeli accept being slaughtered by Islamic terrorists but isn't going to happen. Reality is calls to push Israel into a corner is going to result in stuff you claim not to want.

nailer6• 12 months ago

Why? Are you going to call on Poland and France to disarm and relinquish the parts of Germany they won after Germany started a war against them?

If so, at least I understand your thinking. If not, why not?

nivertech4• 12 months ago

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tomhow2• 12 months ago

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nivertech4• 12 months ago

Hello Tom,

Please delete that comment, and any other of my posts that may go against HN guidelines. Thanks!

Arab states call on Hamas to disarm and relinquish power in unprecedented move

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