SUSE launches new European digital sovereignty service to meet surging demand

https://www.zdnet.com/article/suse-launches-new-european-digital-sovereignty-support-service-to-meet-surging-demand/

by saubeidl • 1 year ago

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jpalomaki• 1 year ago

"Customer support data is stored exclusively on EU-located networks and servers"

We should not just focus on the location. It's about who is managing the servers and networks.

anonzzzies• 1 year ago

The focus should not be on the location, provided it is in the EU, but really the focus should be on carefully siloing the user data and make it only accessible to who needs them which is definitely no-one managing any servers and networks; it shouldn't matter (just dataloss, but not leaks which are not worthless). The info should be encrypted with different service dependent (healthcare, different levels, taxes etc) key pairs. As long as this data is accessible by anyone else but me, it's going to fall in the wrong hands anyway.

pjc50• 1 year ago

SUSE S.A. ownership does seem to be entirely European, if you're worried about Safe Harbor type issues.

https://siliconangle.com/2023/08/18/suse-taken-private-major...

bgwalter• 1 year ago

They were a German company before being bought by Novell in 2004. I think the popularity dropped after the takeover in Europe.

Now that they are completely disentangled again, let's hope they restore the popularity. It is a good distribution.

diggan2• 1 year ago

We should not just focus on the location

True, but location matters a great deal, because some countries have a tendency to MITM any physical link they can get their hands on, even if that means scuba divers or secret rooms. But also who it is who is managing it, agree.

hulitu2• 1 year ago

some countries have a tendency to MITM any physical link they can get their hands on, even if that means scuba divers or secret rooms

The same countries have physical access to links in other countries, through agreements.

defraudbah4• 1 year ago

good luck to suse, hopefully denmark will be first to migrate to linux and stay there unlike other countries (germany i am looking at you).

other than that i don't really believe owning EU data is the battle we can win with more regulations. I bet in 10 years nothing will change, maybe a few more grants, a few more laws..

saubeidl6• 1 year ago

I think regulations can be highly successful, if used aggressively enough. Look at China - they own their data, because they didn't allow it to be exfiltrated.

I think the issue at hand is that we've been half-assing our regulatory efforts.

Tajnymag• 1 year ago

Have you just used China as a good example for user privacy?

palata3• 1 year ago

Regulations work, you just have to enforce them.

defraudbah4• 1 year ago

i am curious if you are from eu or ever tried to run a business here

pjmlp3• 1 year ago

Ironically, as ex zealot, desilusied with the endless fragmentation of Linux distributions and desktop dream, FOSS OSes currently are looking as the only way out of American dominated consumer OSes and related programming languages.

Plus in my deep Penguin days, SuSE was one of my favourite distros, I loved yast based management, and the KDE integration.

DaSHacka• 1 year ago

related programming languages.

Does it matter what country a programming language originates from?

pjmlp3• 1 year ago

Yes, unless they are 100% under international standards, or 100% open source, they are subject to export restrictions from the overloads contributors, as per the countries their headquarters are located on.

Some examples,

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/error_embargoed.html

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/nuget/nuget-org/policies/e...

Barrin92• 1 year ago

SusSE was one of my favourite distros

it's honestly a crime that they don't get more traction. Tooling they've put out like the Open Build Service (which is distro agnostic), is fantastic. I've been using Tumbleweed on dev machines for a long time, and the fact that they ship fully tested images is imo just a vastly better way to do a rolling release.

DrillShopper2• 1 year ago

Their corporate support is a joke.

When we bring a problem to them, which we pay them for, the turn around time is awful, and about 2/5 cases I end up having to break out the debugging tools and root cause/fix fix it because their support engineers can't be bothered.

Especially their nVidia support. Worse than useless.

0xfedcafe• 1 year ago

This is really good news. Europe has kept saying that digital sovereignty is a must, but for some reason, they have primarily considered US-based projects like Fedora and almost never SUSE. This has always made me wonder, because SUSE already has almost all the necessary tools; for example, Rancher and openSUSE and they're well known in Europe for quite a while.

SUSE launches new European digital sovereignty service to meet surging demand

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