European-alternatives.eu Experiencing Massive Traffic Increase Since January

https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives/114139039515682544

by pentacent_hq • 1 year ago

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pentacent_hq2• 1 year ago

YTD, they have already seen 1.1M unique visitors, compared to just 0.3M in all of 2024.

They’ve also opened up their analytics data here: https://plausible.io/european-alternatives.eu

basemi• 1 year ago

Thanks for the link

Noteworthy percentage of Firefox users.

ethan_smith• 1 year ago

What's telling from their analytics is that this isn't just a knee-jerk reaction - the engagement metrics show people seriously evaluating options rather than panic-clicking (spending almost 3 minutes on the website).

I'm particularly curious which sectors are seeing the most interest - cloud services? Productivity tools? Communication platforms? That data could help prioritize where European companies should focus innovation efforts.

mytailorisrich4• 1 year ago

It is somewhat of a knee-jerk reaction. That said, European governments and media have been serving a relentless propaganda. It started with the invasion of Ukraine but has recently taken an even more sinister turn. This sort of thing does work and does change public opinion.

jamesblonde• 1 year ago

It's not propaganda if it is true.

sMarsIntruder• 1 year ago

this thing that a comment slightly not aligned gets downvoted, must stop

fooker9• 1 year ago

Does Russian count as ‘European’ alternative?

The Russian web shows an interesting alternate universe where western copyright is not a thing.

If the war leads to the downfall of Russia, I worry that the last vestiges of the ‘free’ internet that helps billions of people in third world countries access content will be gone forever.

It’s already partially the case with a good fraction of servers in Ukraine gone.

gigatexal2• 1 year ago

What? Nobody is asking for the “downfall” of Russia. Just that Putin stops trying to rebuilt the USSR geographically and killing Ukrainians.

If war does break out and Russia or many countries including Russia is destroyed that’d be horrible.

There’s so much more to do in the world in 2025 so much more we could do as a species but as a species we seem hellbent on killing ourselves.

fooker9• 1 year ago

Nobody is asking for the “downfall” of Russia.

It's one of the likely outcomes of the war unless someone with a decent amount of influence in Russia takes Putin down.

mytailorisrich4• 1 year ago

Note how this is personified in the official propaganda and media. This is not "Russia", this is "Putin". This is a typical tactic to deny that whatever actions Russia has been taken reflect deeper interests and (Russian) public opinion but is instead only the result of a "mad man".

navane• 1 year ago

even the parent poster isn't asking for the downfall of russia

pllbnk2• 1 year ago

Not nobody. Some of us would love the prospect of not having Russia border our countries anymore.

pentacent_hq2• 1 year ago

Nope, they are only considering companies from the EU, EEA, EFTA, or DCFTA [1].

So basically EU countries + Switzerland, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine. Notably, this does not include the UK or Russia.

[1] https://european-alternatives.eu/about

waterfountain2• 1 year ago

What does 'russian web' have to do with servers in Ukraine?

oblio2• 1 year ago

Before the war Ukraine, as most CIS countries, were mostly using the Russian internet. Yandex, VK, etc.

fooker9• 1 year ago

Free porn transcends borders and geopolitics I guess.

RamblingCTO2• 1 year ago

Yeah sure, Russia is the last vestige of the free internet. That's certainly a hot take

fooker9• 1 year ago

Free in quotes, but yeah.

Try to host a server allowing people to download movies or songs and you’ll see how fast you are offline in most countries.

Check out how far governments went to snag the Pirate Bay folks and more recently the various darknet markets.

euroderf• 1 year ago

If the war leads to the downfall of Russia, I worry that the last vestiges of the ‘free’ internet that helps billions of people in third world countries access content will be gone forever.

Sci-hub. Edward Snowden.

guptaneil• 1 year ago

This is just shifting your eggs from one basket into another. Yes, the current basket is on fire but we should assume any basket can be lit on fire just as easily.

I’d love to see somebody nail the UX of distributed compute in your home that you own. A box I can buy that is similar UX to managing a SaaS account after plugging it into my router, with automatic management, updates, encrypted backup across cloud providers, and an App Store for services I can install on this appliance that gives self-hosted apps a means to monetize. Then scale that foundation up to business needs and really profit.

These ideas have existed before but IMO nobody nailed the UX and most people didn’t believe we’d light our own basket on fire for fun back then, so the market wasn’t there.

motorest2• 1 year ago

This is just shifting your eggs from one basket into another. Yes, the current basket is on fire but we should assume any basket can be lit on fire just as easily.

I don't think so. That's like complaining about the decision to change a flat tire because all other tires can blow up just as easily.

Can you present a single objective argument that rejects the idea of de-risking your choice of cloud provider?

LiKao• 1 year ago

I wouldn't just call this "shifting your eggs from one basket into another". One of the baskets is on fire, because people decided to light it on fire. So we are also telling these people, that we are really not willing to accept this.

This is a clear message to those who have not yet lighted their baskets on fire not to make the same mistake, because we can and will find enough other baskets. Looking at the current stock market this does send a strong message.

Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin and the likes want to create a system where democracy is replaced by consumer spending decisions, because they are narcissistic enough to believe they will be the ones on to after their proposed system change. Telling them clearly: "No you won't be on top after this" is an absolutely important message to send.

oblio2• 1 year ago

Americans are largely unaware about what's happening in the rest of the world. Reelecting Trump means very few countries will trust the US anymore. Electing him once, ok, a fluke. Twice? The system is rotten and unstable.

I'm fairly sure Ukraine, Canada, Panama, Denmark and the EU as a whole, they're all turning from US allies to indiferent at best. People are actively looking for non US products where they can.

Trump, like Putin, will probably be remembered as the gravedigger for his country.

warabe• 1 year ago

Can I find a non-US HN like news forum where I can find interesting news or comments aboout technologies?

European-alternatives.eu Experiencing Massive Traffic Increase Since January

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