European Parliament removes curbs on lawmaker meetings with China

https://www.yahoo.com/news/european-parliament-removes-curbs-lawmaker-093000322.html

by akyuu • 1 year ago

11 11 1 year ago

Interesting and telling that European lawmakers actually don’t have issues working with a dictatorship that shares almost no values with the European order. But it isn’t entirely surprising either given European leaders support things like censorship and socialism. But to me the reaction to America pulling its wasteful spending on Europe is hysterical. It is far better for Europe and America to reset relations than for either to help China in any way.

4ndrewl• 1 year ago

I'd say the key here is stability. The post-WWII Pax Americana was at least stable. The USA each day moves towards a Putin-esque 'might-is-right' oligarchal model, and that transition to their new world will be painful for them.

Meanwhile China and Europe can agree to be frenemies and note that they're both going to make the least crazy/unexpected bat-shit decisions of the big 4 geopolitical regions.

geek_at• 1 year ago

Socialism is not an insult in the developed world BTW

gp• 1 year ago

We have abandoned Europe, why should we expect them to stay loyal to us?

luyu_wu• 1 year ago

I've seen you far too often with a strongly anti-China viewpoint on HN posts to take your points seriously at this point...

blackeyeblitzar3• 1 year ago

The frequency of what you see isn’t a reason to take something seriously or not. A more specific argument might be helpful. To be clear, I like China and its people. I strongly dislike the CCP and how it operates, for a long list of reasons that are easy to find on Wikipedia or elsewhere. In the context of this discussion, I am simply pointing out that it doesn’t make sense for the allegedly free and democratic societies of Europe to increase their ties with the Chinese government at this point, unless they aren’t actually as free and democratic as previously thought.

someNameIG• 1 year ago

Views like this is why Europe, and other nations outside of it, are looking to move away from close ties with the US, and then becoming closer to China.

blackeyeblitzar3• 1 year ago

That’s circular. You’re saying the fact that I am observing, as in this linked article, countries become friendly with China unexpectedly, is the reasons why they’re becoming friendly with China unexpectedly? If that’s not what you mean, can you be more specific?

RestartKernel• 1 year ago

While I'm not too happy about the influence of a de-facto dictatorship on my region in the world, recent events have shown that the turbulence of a democratic government, and its private interests, brings with it its own share of trouble. Let me know when a Chinese private citizen takes out newspaper ads for a European political party or becomes powerful enough to directly influence a war in our borders.

European Parliament removes curbs on lawmaker meetings with China

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