Framework Laptop 12

https://frame.work/de/en/laptop12

by wuschel • 1 year ago

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bitbasher4• 1 year ago

You are now in line. Thank you for your patience. Your estimated wait time is 8 minutes.

Thanks Cloudflare, I almost considered buying a framework.

wuschel• 1 year ago

Well, at least you can re-consinder in April, when the Framework Laptop 12 pre-orders begin. The new 13 inch is out now, though.

xd19363• 1 year ago

You can't wait 8 minutes to make a computer buying decision? lol

bitbasher4• 1 year ago

Why should I wait? If I can't access the site to make a buying decision, imagine if I had a technical issue or needed support? Am I supposed to wait every time?

No thanks.

mcflubbins3• 1 year ago

I just watched my wait time GO UP, from 2 mins to 3, I think I've had the tab open longer than the initial 7 minutes what is this garbage?

bitbasher4• 1 year ago

Mine went to 16 minutes.

n2j3• 1 year ago

Your estimated wait time is 1 hour and 16 minutes.

viraptor• 1 year ago

That's so bad for the launch... Especially since the landing page should be static, cached, and as easy to serve as the queue page.

sangeeth962• 1 year ago

I'm happy to see Framework going after different laptop/PC segments and trying to break the long cycle of terrible products/cash-grab from all the big manufacturers in the Windows/PC market. I hope everyone eventually has a choice to go for one of these vs. whatever crap Dell/Acer/HP barfs out every year.

I've given up hopes of someone making truly exceptional products for Windows/Linux the way Macs/MacBooks get built. Surface was supposed to get us there but Microsoft just... gave up. Framework is approaching this from a totally different angle, focusing on reliability/upgradeability first and I do hope they eventually crack the formula to build the perfect products.

abdullahkhalids2• 1 year ago

What do you think framework is missing hardware wise?

Software wise they can't do much except ensure that their hardware has all the necessary drivers in the Windows and Linux kernels.

sangeeth962• 1 year ago

What do you think framework is missing hardware wise?

Compared to MacBooks, there's the sheer build quality of not just the whole package, but each and every component. Ever since Apple Silicon, the MacBooks IMO are on a league of their own. My M1 Air is still my most favorite laptop to date and the newer MacBooks define what a "laptop" should be. I realize that Framework's goal makes them approach it from reliability/repairability/upgradeability standpoint but I do hope those laptops converge to the point of having just enough perf, quality and looks to make me want to completely jump ship again.

Software wise they can't do much

I'd like to hope they think otherwise. I still think there's a big gap on the OS market where h/w+s/w wins can be realized together. Somewhere in between macOS and Linux and just the right bits from Windows. Unfortunately, I don't see anyone attempting to make that happen in meaningful ways. Framework could very well try to do that at some point but not holding out hopes given their current goals.

xd19363• 1 year ago

Hoping for more details soon on mainboard compatibility between the Framework 12 and 13. If I can buy just this chassis, but move over all of my existing internals from my Framework 13, I might.

mcflubbins3• 1 year ago

So I'm waiting for Cloudflare to let me in but it sounds like they released a 12" laptop?

I _JUST_ bought a 13", though I think I would've preferred a 12"...

MostlyStable• 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure they aren't compatible. One difference for example is that the 12" uses pogo pins to connect the keyboard to the mainboard, instead of the ribbon cable in the 13". It seems to be an entirely different board.

xd19363• 1 year ago

Was hoping for a 12" Macbook successor with small bezels. There aren't many good small computers out there now... Surface Go, GPD Pocket, etc?

efficax• 1 year ago

I've never seen a marketing website gated like this. Queue the user for the purchase, I just want to see what the dang thing is

kombine• 1 year ago

I just wish Framework Laptop 16 wasn't as bulky. I already have a 14" laptop and looking for a larger screen size because coding on 14" screen is limiting, I can barely squeeze 2 code windows in a vertical split. I would also like to have a local GPU with Pytorch support which I'm not sure I can get with the available Radeon RX 7700s.

0x38B• 1 year ago

Agree about the bulk; I’m on my second Framework 13 and when I pick up my brother’s 16 with graphics module I’m struck by the weight and size; indeed, he has had trouble fitting it into some small to mid-size backpacks.

d3Xt3r• 1 year ago

Unfortunately the biggest problem with Framework is that that don't ship worldwide. I've been waiting for four years to buy their machines now and I'm getting tired of it. Normally I'd just buy a ThinkPad, but Lenovo still don't have any of the new AMD AI 300 series APUs. :(

tony-allan• 1 year ago

I can't wait until someone creates a Raspberry Pi mainboard for this laptop!

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