Viagra-laced 'erectile honey' is flooding into France, officials warn

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-warns-of-viagra-laced-erectile-honey-flooding-into-the-country/

by mschuster91 • 2 years ago

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stackedinserter• 2 years ago

Why is it bad? Look at fertility rates, at this point viagra should be added to tap water like fluoride.

haunter• 2 years ago

Viagra isn’t a sexual stimulant, it won’t make you horny

UncleOxidant• 2 years ago

Nor will it help if infertility is the problem.

johnnyanmac• 2 years ago

In a way that a boner doesn't always make you horny, I suppose so. But there's various natural and social pressure to rid of one.

(I don't necessarily support this, but I can only imagine this recall create a short term black market).

giardini2• 2 years ago

Does it make a difference whether the girl is ugly or pretty?

merksoftworks• 2 years ago

pde5 inhibitors have some dangerous interactions other medications. They also give some people headaches, up to and including migraines. I agree, they will probably end up in some techies nootropic stacks in the near future, I would use them for that. But they can cause blood pressure issues.

Modified3019• 2 years ago

Already is, see: https://old.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/search?q=Cialis&restrict...

Partial doses of cialis use is also a thing in the bodybuilding world

For those curious, be mindful that an all too common side effect of pde5 inhibitors like cialis is eventual tinnitus (even at low doses), which is not worth whatever you are hoping gain.

lm284692• 2 years ago

If you think the fertility rate is low because people can't get hard I have bad news for you

ein0p• 2 years ago

Because it has other side effects, ones it was initially designed for: vasodilation. It can, therefore, drop your blood pressure to an unsafe level if you take too much, which can be deadly.

BobaFloutist2• 2 years ago

Maybe they should add social skills to tap water instead.

potato3732842• 2 years ago

Gimme a f-ing break. It's way better for everyone if sketchy gas station boner pills and like products have traces real medications in them vs whatever unregulated and questionably sourced synthetic drugs and supplements they have before.

jrflowers• 2 years ago

Eat some of the boner honey and post a trip report if you are such a fan of these products

Dylan168072• 2 years ago

Accurate labeling is way way way better.

bloppe• 2 years ago

I know someone who ended up in the hospital for taking a normal dose of Viagra to counteract coke dick. Turns out that's very dangerous. I'd be pretty bummed if I wanted a "natural alternative" for this very reason but ended up with cardiac arrest

joecool1029• 2 years ago

Yea I'm thinking the viagra wasn't the cause here, maybe don't do cocaine if you care about cardiac health.

colechristensen• 2 years ago

The “natural alternatives” are either bogus or potentially dangerous.

There is no such thing as a drug with no negative consequences for taking too much.

If some “natural” ingredient has an effect and isn’t being regulated, who knows how much, how potent, or how consistent the dose is.

“Natural” doesn’t mean safe.

BobaFloutist2• 2 years ago

Another classic dangerous combo is Viagra and poppers, which both lower blood pressure. Lowering blood pressure too much is quite bad.

lm284692• 2 years ago

X is bad so Y is desirable even if it's also bad

Hm ok...

Aurornis2• 2 years ago

What a bad false dichotomy.

Nobody should be buying one product and getting different ingredients inside.

mrlonglong2• 2 years ago

Well if they will smoke and drink, they definitely need all the help they can get.

mrlonglong2• 2 years ago

Oh come on, what's a gentle ribbing between the UK and our French counterparts?

xutopia• 2 years ago

I once took some "natural and organic sleeping ingredients" and there was a recall due to it containing a highly potent and dangerous prescription only ingredient.

It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine.

krisoft2• 2 years ago

It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine.

I don’t think that follows from two anecdotes. There is plenty of natural remedies which have an effect. Just thinking of the simplest, least controversial one: packing citrus fruits for a long voyage does indeed prevent scurvy.

zapkyeskrill• 2 years ago

Wouldn't you need to consume it at some point? Doubt just packing it has the desired effect.

bigiain• 2 years ago

Until you replace lemons with limes and then deliver the juice through copper pipes...

https://idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_and_scurvy.htm

Aurornis2• 2 years ago

It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's laced with allopathic medicine

There are a surprising number of herbs that do something within the body. However, that something is usually mild and mixed in with a large number of other effects. Supplement companies now play games where they try to extract, isolate, and condense the natural product into those active chemicals with various degrees of success, but even the extracts don’t escape the problems of off-target effects and liver or kidney load.

I was surprised to hear from a doctor about how often they see patients who choose traditional Chinese medicine or other herbalist practices and end up with elevated liver markers or signs of kidney trouble.

The supplement world is also embracing a lot of gray market medications now. You can buy “supplements” that are actually just experimental drugs that haven’t been fully researched yet, but some enterprising person had a lab in China synthesized it and now sells it on their website.

For a while, supplement vendors were even synthesizing commercial drugs and then just selling them as powders, amazingly. You could go buy little jars of drugs like Memantine (a prescription medication) from supplement vendors. The current mod team of /r/Nootropics on Reddit also runs one of the popular supplement vendors on Reddit (surprise) and they were recently hit for breaking some laws around labeling their supplements, which is a slap on the wrist relative to their past history of selling full pharmaceuticals, addictive substances like phenibut, and opioid medications like Tianeptine as “supplements”

Of course, they cracked down on any threads discussing their legal troubles on Reddit and they’ve replaced it with stories about how they’re actually the victims, with a lot of bans being handed out on /r/Nootropics for people who disagreed. It’s wild to witness how the supplement industry works and how effectively they’ve captured online discussion in their favor.

CyberDildonics• 2 years ago

What do you call alternative medicine when it has been proven to work? Medicine.

Cumpiler692• 2 years ago

There is nothing more French than this, except maybe Viagra laced cigarettes.

senectus12• 2 years ago

PPC's? :-P

Cumpiler692• 2 years ago

What's that?

Dilettante_3• 2 years ago

"Oh no! Where?"

mattbrewsbytes• 2 years ago

How is this anything remotely "hacker news"? Someone "hacked" honey?

Dilettante_3• 2 years ago

The boner honey industry is being disrupted

kotaKat• 2 years ago

Waiting for Hims to come up with some sketchy compounded formulation now.

gofastercloud• 2 years ago

I thought I was in r/BrandNewSentence

beeflet• 2 years ago

its kinda funny I think

fxtentacle2• 2 years ago

It's not flooding into France by itself, people are buying it on the black market. Which suggests that this product alleviates a customer pain point ;) which apparently the government could not solve the official way.

rscho3• 2 years ago

Well, of course people would like OTC meds for erectile dysfunction. Unfortunately, Viagra and friends must be controlled due to dangerous side-effects. But most people won't ever understand that. They'll just say it's the bad docs wanting more money...

fxtentacle2• 1 year ago

I would assume that those side-effects aren't quite as bad, or else why are Denmark and the UK allowing sales without any prescription or doctor's visit? Someone from France could legally drive up to Denmark, buy the stuff, and drive back home. (about 9 hours per direction)

fuzzfactor• 2 years ago

There's always this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84-g3kuJ2cE

"Viagra in the Water"

giardini2• 2 years ago

Great! Next thing we'll have Killer Hornets with a hard-on! (Not to mention horny Boner Bears - https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/...)

Killer Hornets:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=killer+hornets&ia=web

Viagra-laced 'erectile honey' is flooding into France, officials warn

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