Covid-19 linked to type 2 diabetes onset in children

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-10-covid-linked-diabetes-onset-children.html

by wglb • 2 years ago

13 10 2 years ago

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chiefalchemist3• 2 years ago

Probably not a popular take:

- But they didn't account for the treatment for Covid as being a possible cause for the difference.

- Nor - conveniently? - is there mention of vaxinated vs non-vaxinated. Boosted vs non.

- The final check would be those who knew they had Covid vs those who were asymptomatic. Stress is a powerful force. Those aware of having Covid may have stressed more, which is known to effect the immune system, weight gain, etc.

defrost3• 2 years ago

It's an ANOVA study of a cohort of 613,602 pediatric patients aged 10 to 19 years between 2020 to 2022 based on electronic health records that include factors such as vaccination status.

It reports the correlations found - those that had a COVID diagnosis (with no prior diabetes indicated) had a greater chance of developing diabetes.

It doesn't report that those vaccinated (with no prior diabetes indicated) had a greater chance of developing diabetes NOR does it report a great many other potential relationships.

The probable reason for that lack of reporting is the absence of pattern being present in the data ... it's reasonable to assume that multiple correlations across fields in the EHRs were run (including against vaccination status).

If you suspect a vaccination effect you can always look to Australian health studies - the country has decades of world class near total population records for the entire country and had a near total COVID vaccination program with multiple doses.

Any effects would clearly show up in the before and after M&M stats of 25 million people.

chiefalchemist3• 2 years ago

The probable reason for that lack of reporting is the absence of pattern being present in the data

So another "scientific study" with too little actual science? How does this build trust?

jcoletti2• 2 years ago

Headlines always get me. Correlation identified, but not causation.

mewse• 2 years ago

As a practical matter, studies about links between major diseases will always always be talking about correlation.

To reach 'causation' would require intentionally giving your experimental subjects Covid-19 (and in a way that didn't result in them knowing they'd had it!), and that's unlikely to pass muster with the ethics review board.

jcoletti2• 2 years ago

Hm, I thought other methods could be used to establish causation, such as longitudinal cohorts, RCTs, and (another randomization I'm forgetting), that wouldn't require infecting humans, but maybe I'm confusing these

cameldrv• 2 years ago

Could be reverse causation. T2 diabetes is a major risk factor for COVID, so perhaps kids with undiagnosed T2 diabetes are more likely to have COVID bad enough to go to the doctor.

Covid-19 linked to type 2 diabetes onset in children

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