Pirate Bay Founder Fined For ‘Continued Involvement’ In The Site

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founder-fined-for-continued-involvement-in-the-site-120627/

by jacobr • 14 years ago

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iwwr• 14 years ago

Should say: "Pirate Bay founder fined for absence of evidence against 'continued involvement' in the site"

eli3• 14 years ago

Fairly or unfairly, the fine was levied for "continued involvement". I don't think we have any way of knowing whether their evidence is any good... Though if we're going to play guessing games about guilt and innocence, I would point out that Neij doesn't deny the charges -- he only denies they could have enough evidence to prove it.

TazeTSchnitzel• 14 years ago

And TorrentFreak is not exactly an objective source...

HotKFreshSwag• 14 years ago

“In civil cases it’s guilty until proven innocent and in a previous case I declined to give the details who I transfered the site to. They say if it’s not me, then I could easily say who it is.”

That's kind of a weird legal system.

TylerE2• 14 years ago

Actually, the real standard in a civil case, at least in the US, is "the preponderance of evidence". When you offer nothing in your own defense, guess how the court is going to rule?

It's like saying you sold a car, but absolutely refusing to show a bill of sale, registration in the new owner's name, etc.

nodata• 14 years ago

> When you offer nothing in your own defense, guess how the court is going to rule?

Innocent, hopefully.

If someone accuses me of something, I'd hope they'd try to prove it.

__alexs• 14 years ago

Then where is the "preponderance of evidence" that he's still involved in running it?

How's he even meant to reliably document the transfer of the thing in this case? What is the standard of evidence they actually expect for him to be proven as not involved now? It's really not at all obvious how this guy is meant to clear his name. Not that he seems to care about it of course. It's just obvious how broken and pointless the entire case is.

bad_user• 14 years ago

In the US there's also such a thing called the Fifth Amendment that says you must not be compelled to be a witness against yourself, which is the freedom to not talk to the police or anyone about anything that might incriminate you.

They also can't use your silence as evidence of anything.

Pirate Bay Founder Fined For ‘Continued Involvement’ In The Site

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