A $149 ARM laptop that looks like a MacBook Air (and runs Android)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/07/thd-n2-kirf-macbook-air-ics/

by gosub • 14 years ago

25 28 14 years ago

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zephjc• 14 years ago

Impressive, though some of the machining around the various ports looks a little naff.

Sottilde• 14 years ago

How is this - or is it - legal?

jholman• 14 years ago

Your question is confusing. Are you under the impression that Apple has somehow gained legal protection for all aluminum clamshell laptops of a certain colour scheme?

It's a laptop. Why wouldn't it be legal?

On a vaguely related note, the plaintiff lost in both Apple v. Microsoft (35 F.3d 1435) and Lotus v. Borland (516 U.S. 233). It would appear that you can neither patent nor copyright Look and Feel.

wmf5• 14 years ago

Apple has design patents on the designs of their products, so anything that looks exactly like a Mac is likely to infringe those patents.

http://www.theverge.com/policy/2012/6/7/3068355/Apple-design...

bri3d2• 14 years ago

It hasn't gone to court yet, but yes, Apple have gained protection for all aluminum clamshell laptops of a certain shape : http://www.theverge.com/policy/2012/6/7/3068355/Apple-design... .

cube13• 14 years ago

It's not the clamshell design that's the problem, I think. I think it's other parts, like the charging apparatus.

The magsafe-like charging connector is pretty much identical in appearance to Apple's design. I would be surprised if Apple doesn't have an industrial design patent on that.

The keyboard is similar, but I don't think there's a problem, considering all the other Chiclets-style keyboards out there.

epochwolf• 14 years ago

I think Apple could easily win a tradedress lawsuit against this device. It's not legal to exactly copy the design of another manufacturer.

bri3d2• 14 years ago

It's probably not legal, but Apple's options to stop it are limited.

If Apple really wanted to, they could probably get an import injunction against these devices like they've done with HTC and Samsung over phone IP issues (with varying degrees of success: http://www.pcworld.com/article/257109/samsung_htc_spar_with_... ).

Then it'd be up to the customs office to actually catch shipments of these into the US - with HTC and Samsung, it's easy, as they properly declare the contents of their shipments and try to remain above-the-level. With Chinese sellers shipping individual units to US buyers, it's unlikely a customs officer would notice or care - just another random electronic good marked as a "Gift: Electronics Item" on a custom form.

Apple could also try to prosecute the manufacturers in China but their success in that endeavor is highly unlikely.

So basically, it isn't legal, but don't expect that to stop these devices from showing up at your door if purchased from eBay and other online sellers.

ajross• 14 years ago

Note that the quoted price is wholesale, in units of 500.

It's a 1.2GHz single-core Cortex A8 (not A9) with 1GB of RAM and a 1366x768 display. The article states 8G of "SSD" storage, but at that size and given the feature sets of these SoCs it's much more likely to be a SD/eMMC device. Frankly this is going to be a very poor laptop replacement, but as a browsing/messaging box it might make sense.

And of course it looks exactly like a Macbook Air.

grecy• 14 years ago

How long until someone installs OS X on this?

I've been running 10.5 on my Dell Mini 9 for almost 3 years without a single problem. I'd love the bigger screen.

wmf5• 14 years ago

OS X doesn't run on random ARM SoCs.

duskwuff• 14 years ago

OS X doesn't run on ARM at all. iOS might, with a ton of hacking, but as far as I'm aware that hasn't been demonstrated by anyone yet.

alexobenauer2• 14 years ago

With 1 GB of RAM and 8 GB of storage, I don't think installing OS X on it would be very beneficial.

pimeys• 14 years ago

Does OS X support ARM yet? If I remember correctly iOS devices use ARM and iOS is a fork of OS X. Still feels kind of distant you would be able to install it.

alexobenauer2• 14 years ago

$149? That's cheap. You get what you pay for: According to the article, this thing has 8 GB of storage.

wmf5• 14 years ago

the device's build quality certainly isn't up to Apple's standards

That sounds like a huge understatement. A good phone is $500, so I'd expect an ARM laptop to have a similar price. For $150 they must be cutting a lot of corners.

th0ma52• 14 years ago

I briefly read what you typed as something like you would cut yourself on the corners, which also may well be true!

wmf5• 14 years ago

In Chinese Air clone, corners cut you.

dangrossman• 14 years ago

Look at the bill of materials teardowns for recent Android phones. Many of them are around just $200 in parts, with many of those parts unnecessary in this larger form-factor: $40-80 in radio parts for voice/3G/4G, the touchscreen tech, gyroscopes and other sensors, front and rear cameras, and having to pack it all onto a much smaller board.

CountHackulus• 14 years ago

If it ran Linux, I'd be all over it, but with Android, I'd much rather just use a smartphone or a tablet. It's essentially a tablet without a touchscreen as-is.

th0ma52• 14 years ago

A great deal of the Linux userland is available. On my Arm based phone, I can vnc into an X windows session on the same device.

drivebyacct2• 14 years ago

Why, why, why? Why do people want Android on a non-mobile/tablet device? It's not designed for a mouse, arguably not even for a keyboard...

Ubuntu would rock on that thing. Okay, maybe not Ubuntu, maybe something a bit better tuned for 1GB of RAM, but still, this would be fun to have for $150.

Also, are those ports empty? ha, Or at least, what is the port that is analogous to the MBA's Thunderbolt port? I don't recognize it.

edit Actually, I'd definitely get down with Chrome OS on this. Is there a usable ARM port of Chrome OS?

georgemcbay• 14 years ago

Android from Honeycomb on is quite nice with a mouse/keyboard combination, particularly if the "mouse" is really a multitouch touchpad.

I use my ASUS Transformer in that configuration more than I use it in tablet form, and I find that both the hardward keyboard and the touchpad work perfectly fine. The real downside isn't the OS support, but the app selection. There are still far too few apps built assuming that some percentage of the userbase will be using richer-than-touchscreen-only input methods, but this is beginning to slowly change as more full-featured office apps and IDEs are starting to appear.

wmf5• 14 years ago

I don't think it has anything to do with what people want. Getting Android running on this hardware was easier than getting Ubuntu running, so that's what they did.

tseabrooks• 14 years ago

Is that a mag connector for the power? I didn't think anyone but apple could use that.

spobo• 14 years ago

Ripping off the MagSafe or not doesn't even matter. They clearly didn't ask Apple for permission for any of this as this has illegal written all over it.

bsphil• 14 years ago

>looks like a macbook air

Oh the Apple lawyers will be pissed about that.

A $149 ARM laptop that looks like a MacBook Air (and runs Android)

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