Is Codeberg.org financially sustainable relying on member fees? Any precedents?

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by lijunhao • 2 years ago

25 19 2 years ago

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lijunhao2• 2 years ago

Can Codeberg.org achieve long-term financial sustainability relying solely on member fees?

Are there any successful precedents for this model ?

notpushkin• 2 years ago

Perhaps add an "Ask HN" in the title?

phoe-krk• 2 years ago

solely on member fees

No, you can donate: https://docs.codeberg.org/improving-codeberg/donate/

Codeberg e.V. is a non-profit.

karma_pharmer• 2 years ago

Oh it's much worse than that. They only accept member fees paid by SEPA transfers. As in Single Euro Payment Area. Don't live in a country that uses the Euro or is part of the EU? Your money isn't welcome here.

What a dumb policy.

m0nhawk• 2 years ago

This is just wrong: they support both SEPA and international bank transfers through IBAN.

manuel_w• 2 years ago

Isn't IBAN just the account identifier SEPA uses?

(The other identifier necessary to make SEPA transfers being the BIC = bank id.)

anonzzzies• 2 years ago

What a dumb policy.

It would be, if it were true.

gruez• 2 years ago

Just use a service like Wise?

rty32• 2 years ago

Yes, sign up for a service I would never use otherwise to send money is a very convincing and straightforward way to support this project.

p_l2• 2 years ago

They support SEPA Direct Debit or a manual bank transfers over SWIFT.

The latter works everywhere you can make a normal international bank transfer. It's just manual, while SEPA Direct Debit is automatic payment.

jwildeboer3• 2 years ago

Yes. I am a paying member and thus I get the member newsletter where finances are disclosed and discussed. It’s a low-cost operation and we have enough reserves in the bank.

lijunhao2• 2 years ago

Thank you for sharing this information. I am also applying for membership and am eager to see Codeberg succeed.

However, I am concerned about the long-term sustainability of Codeberg, especially if it plans to support CI (which is resource-intensive) and attract a significantly larger user base.

Similarweb statistics indicate a substantial difference in traffic between Codeberg and GitHub. While Codeberg has approximately 2 million page views (700.8K visits * 2.78 pages/visits) per month, GitHub boasts over 2.7 billion (462.4M visits * 6 pages/visits). This translates to Codeberg having roughly 0.1% of GitHub's traffic.

If Codeberg aims to reach even 10% of GitHub's traffic, the operational costs would likely increase by a factor of 100 or much more ( almost certain ). Has Codeberg internally addressed this scalability challenge and outlined strategies for managing such growth? What are Codeberg's long-term goals in terms of user base and features, and how do they plan to balance these aspirations with sustainability?

Thank you.

bananapub• 2 years ago

However, I am concerned about the long-term sustainability of Codeberg

Why? If you want to support it, do so. If it collapses, change some git repository URLs in your READMEs.

lowdownbutter• 2 years ago

For anyone wondering, e.V. stands for "eingetragener Verein",

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_association_(German...

Is Codeberg.org financially sustainable relying on member fees? Any precedents?

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