Systemd Looks to Replace sudo with run0

https://news.itsfoss.com/systemd-run0/

by thunderbong • 2 years ago

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spcebar• 2 years ago

Surely, just like systemd was, this will be completely without controversy.

bigbuppo3• 2 years ago

Systemd, the software that recently added a feature that deletes users' home directories?

jasonvorhe2• 2 years ago

You mean a very specific command like systemd-tmpfiles that you have to manually execute and feed with the parameter --purge while omitting a config file in order for it to do so? Because of a bug that was quickly fixed in 256.1, not even 2 weeks after the 256(.0) release? [1]

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/20/systemd_2561_data_wip...

bigbuppo3• 2 years ago

So what you're saying is that they don't thoroughly test systemd before releasing a new version?

c22• 2 years ago

I'm okay with this as long as they don't come for my doas.

tetris11• 2 years ago

if initd and shepherd still exist, then so will doas and sudo

JNRowe• 2 years ago

Close to nine-hundred comments¹ when Lennart posted about run0 on mastodon² a couple of months ago.

¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40205714

² https://mastodon.social/@pid_eins/112353324518585654

coretx• 2 years ago

Just switch to doas already.

petre• 2 years ago

Great, more lennartware unleashed upon us, more systemd nonsense to disable. Thankfully there’s s6-sudo, doas. The former solves the same problem with a daemon without messing with PID 0.

https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-sudo.html

JackSlateur2• 2 years ago

Is sudo even useful ? I could argue that it has only few sane usage. Indeed, those usage are importants.

JackSlateur2• 2 years ago

We have built massive multi-user systems with no sudo at all. Every users had the privileges required to do what was necessary.

To me, the most useless use of sudo is for admin access. When people creates nominative accounts, which are allowed to sudo everything. So people ssh to the system (via per-user account), then sudo su -, to do stuff.

Surely, it made sense before ssh keys where introduced (where there even such a time ?), because we had a single root password. A security-minded people would use auditd to link the whole process tree with a specific ssh private key, regardless of the user used.

But again, sudo is still useful in some cases.

pasquino• 2 years ago

They are free to add whatever they want, if I'm free to not use it, to disable their stuff without break my OS. Because at the end, that is MY computer not Lennard's. I moved from Windows for that reason, avoid a OS that deprive me the authority on MY PC. If it won't be possible in future, I'm already studying OpenBSD. Anyway, my desire is a systems-free linux officially supported by major software houses.

mindcrash• 2 years ago

Thank God for giving Daniel to the world, and Daniel for giving the world Gentoo and the ability to run your own Linux setup however the fuck you want.

Ages ago people warned Lennart would start doing fuckery like this, but apparently all for nothing.

What's next? Replacing the Linux kernel because it "isn't good enough" according to mister Poettering?

Systemd Looks to Replace sudo with run0

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