Youth activists win 'unprecedented' climate settlement in Hawaii

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/20/hawaii-youth-climate-activists-win

by racional • 2 years ago

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JumpCrisscross5• 2 years ago

Complaint: https://earthjustice.org/wp-content/uploads/1_2022-6-1_compl...

Settlement: https://earthjustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/495-2024...

Went in to poke holes. But this looks legit.

SV_BubbleTime3• 2 years ago

Environmental law experts said that the youth climate lawsuit strategy, which has been ongoing since 2011, has faced an uphill battle in many states.

Oh interesting.

JumpCrisscross5• 2 years ago

an uphill battle in many states

Their litigation would seem to depend on Art. XI § 9 of the Constition of the State of Hawaii, which holds:

“Each person has the right to a clean and healthful environment, as defined by laws relating to environmental quality, including control of pollution and conservation, protection and enhancement of natural resources. Any person may enforce this right against any party, public or private, through appropriate legal proceedings, subject to reasonable limitations and regulation as provided by law.”

https://lrb.hawaii.gov/constitution/#articlexi

SV_BubbleTime3• 2 years ago

Cool.

Now prove that a hardline unrealistic zero emissions by 2045 won’t lead to a worse environmental.

Because I think lack of food, lack of trucks for maintenance, lack of locally produced clean water, and lack of tourism will result in negative outcomes.

I am an automotive EE, we’re designing trucks now for 32-34 model year release, spoiler, they’re gas and diesel.

wccrawford• 2 years ago

It says it's "enforceable", but that seems to be limited to "start another lawsuit", and I can't see any actual penalties for failure, other than what some future judge comes up with? If any.

JumpCrisscross5• 2 years ago

that seems to be limited to "start another lawsuit"

Based on what? The court that approved the settlement reserves continuing jurisdiction over it through 2045 (or the achievement of the goal).

antiquark• 2 years ago

Many of those inter-island flights are on Boeing 717s. Will they have an electric replacement by 2045?

xyst• 2 years ago

If only the rest of the US DOTs can get on board. The path of “widen highways” is often the go-to for all of the states. Near zero consideration for alternative transportation methods.

JumpCrisscross5• 2 years ago

only the rest of the US DOTs can get on board

This settlement appears highly dependent on Art. XI § 9 of the Hawaii Constitution, referenced in another comment [1].

The story of how such strong wording made it into their Constitution, way back in 1978, must be interesting.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40749804

Youth activists win 'unprecedented' climate settlement in Hawaii

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