Tintin Charter for the use of the visuals of the Hergé's Work [pdf]

https://cdn001.tintin.com/public/pressclub/pdf/charte_v3_en.pdf

by ustad • 2 years ago

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well that is the way it is until copyright runs out. I think in the case of Herge that should be in 2053 - in EU. Maybe less in some cases in U.S.

jmcmaster• 2 years ago

Dall-E readily generates an image of Tintin fighting Godzilla in the style of the Hergé comics.

How much more IP liability exposure do LLM companies have? NYT just the biggest so far…

Yeri• 2 years ago

As a Belgian (Hergé being Belgian), it's well known that the estate (first his wife and later the holding) is very strict with the copyright and basically forbidding anything. Shame as I feel adaptations or other work could be nice.

defrost2• 2 years ago

For some value of the word 'nice', sure.

    In February 2001, the Hergé Foundation learned about Bud E. Weyser's attempts to market *Tintin in Thailand* as an unknown Tintin book to distributors in Belgium.

    The Belgian police organized a sting, with an officer pretending to be a prospective buyer; two arrests were made in Tournai. They also arrested the designer in Antwerp.

    The men confessed to printing more than 1,000 copies for sale in Belgium, and the 650 copies found were seized. All three men were subsequently released.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_Thailand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tintin_parodies_and_pa...

aaron695• 2 years ago

Tintin in Thailand - https://online.pubhtml5.com/hmeo/bzok/#p=1 pdf- http://www.blackkat.net/tintin/pdf/Tintin%20in%20Thailand.pd... (http) [since it's not copyright]

I always buy a counterfeit Tintin in X shirt, when Tintin has never been to the country I'm in. Not a fan of authentic merch.

I fail to see why anyone would expect the estate to do any different. Clearly any of these can hurt the brand and the law is on their side.

It's like eating endangered animals, it's against the law for people to sell them, I understand the law, I don't follow it but I'm not a child who complains when people point out the law, just break the law.

Lets have Tintin be a slaver next and demand the estate say that's ok. I don't want peoples basement made fanfic polluting the world like the Disney man-child franchise, it's far better to keep Tintin to Asian side alleys.

forty• 2 years ago

This guy made tintin parody, and I think he had some troubles with the right holders https://ssz.fr/unfauxgraphiste/

Too bad, that made me laugh :)

sam_lowry_• 2 years ago

Many Belgians boycott Hergé estate because they are behaving unethically.

When Hergé was alive, his works became part of national identity.

Trying to forbid imitations, fanfics and follow-ups should be equal to treason with proper punishment inscribed in Penal Code. Too bad the political circles are soft on such crimes.

Moreover, his former wife and her current husband apparently do not even have IP rights over many of their assertions, this is covered even in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herg%C3%A9_Foundation

Two4• 2 years ago

Utterly unenforceable in cases of fair use or fair dealing. Maybe Belgium doesn't have legal equivalents for those, but this text is all but useless outside of commercial contexts in most territories.

rebuilder• 2 years ago

Well yes, these are essentially licensing terms.

wodenokoto• 2 years ago

But it's not true. There are plenty of authorized reproduction that breaks the strictly prohibited rules.

To modify the original text of the speech bubbles, covers and so forth, or to add any text to the selected visual(s).

Obviously they are giving publishers of translations an exception to this strictly prohibited, no-exceptions rule.

To change the colours, line or orientation of the image. The film "Tintin and I" re-animates large parts of several scenes.

So why publish a document saying "when we've granted you the right to re-publish some of our stuff, you can't do the following with it", when they obviously will allow you.

Also, shouldn't the copyright date be the year of the original being reproduced? Or what exactly is the point of the copyright year here?

mo_42• 2 years ago

First tactic of lawyers is to scare off people. Only resourceful and knowledgeable entities can challenge such claims.

red_admiral• 2 years ago

themes which harm the author's honour [...] alcohol

Billions of blistering blue barnacles! Captain Haddock was an alcoholic to the point he smuggled some drink in a hollowed-out book on a trip to the moon.

Most of the original books are full of social and political commentary on the kinds of topics supposedly banned here.

YeGoblynQueenne• 2 years ago

Starkly different to the laissez-faire approach to Asterix copyrights by whomever holds them, assuming someone still does, which have allowed countless parodies and cameos in stories by many other authors (a long tradition of the French comic scene anyway).

Which reminds me, I'm re-reading "Tintin et les Picaros" and there is a, presumably unlicensed, reproduction of the likeness of Asterix, and another of Mickey Mouse, in it.

They're both in the last panel of page 54 in my copy of the book by Casterman (I reckon that's the canonical edition, yes?). The panel shows the carnival in Tapiocapolis and there's two revellers dressed as Asterix and Mickey.

But, you know. Copyright. It's good when it's protecting us, ey?

Tintin Charter for the use of the visuals of the Hergé's Work [pdf]

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