Deutsche Bahn is looking for Win 3.11 admin

It's still state-run, and 90% of the reason why Deutsche Bahn AG is in such a sorry state is the German government. Want to see privatization done right? Look no further than Germany's southern neighbour.

redeeman• 2 years ago

and that cost is cheaper. Both provides crappy services, one just does it cheaper.

wslh• 2 years ago

It is a good recommendation to follow the "if it works don't touch it" motto, but it is also true that they have time and resources (you don't need that much!) to port this to a modern platform and perform all the QA activities that you need to be 99% sure everything works as expected.

Through one of my companies we were/are involved in many of these efforts (e.g. application virtualization) and the use of legacy software [1]. Win 3.11 is a relatively easy target. Much much easier than other projects we dealt with.

[1] https://blog.nektra.com/2014/02/12/nektra-escalation-support...

incrudible• 2 years ago

The problem with modern platforms is that they remove many constraints that kept complexity at bay. Combined with a large bureaucratic organization that is state owned and financed, Parkinson's law is going to hit very hard.

miyuru• 2 years ago

Are there any trains that runs on k8s?

zyx3212• 2 years ago

Nope, they're all running on Rails.

Traubenfuchs• 2 years ago

Hi, I was deeply involved in DBs Vendo project which completely replaced/renewed most of it's sales / customer-facing related backends and we were using Open Shift.

5/6 years ago... Everything could have changed again by now.

ant6n• 2 years ago

This article is just copy-pasted (stolen) from this blog entry, which also contains more of the original posting:

https://stadt-bremerhaven.de/bahn-administrator-fuer-windows...

sho_hn2• 2 years ago

A lone position, or do they have a Workgroup?

smitty1e2• 2 years ago

"I see what you did there," said Bob.

sho_hn2• 2 years ago

Hi Bob! It's Rover.

PeterStuer• 2 years ago

This is probably for working on Siemens' Sibas 32 family of products. This ia a large product range for their rail portfolio. You're not going to change the break control driver system on a high speed train unless absolutely required. The oldest OS that qualifies for interacting with these systems seems to be Windows 3.11, so it seems knowledge of such a system would be part of the requirements of a field engineer, just like knowledge of first aid is a requirement even though in theory you are only going to touch a keyboard, but interfacing with high-power electrical systems can have serious physical consequences.

For a taste you can read through https://www.scribd.com/document/442402647/5A-Monitor-prog-Si...

mschuster912• 2 years ago

The oldest OS that qualifies for interacting with these systems seems to be Windows 3.11, so it seems knowledge of such a system would be part of the requirements of a field engineer

Working with it, yes. Developing for it? Completely different game, as you'll have almost zero chance to use anything modern, and that includes the tooling.

flohofwoe• 2 years ago

People are building Amiga applications as well as games and scene demos for much older 8-bit home computers with modern development tools. Even if Windows 3.1 doesn't quite have the same enthusiast following I would expect that it's possible with a bit of reverse engineering and tinkering (especially since Win3.1 is still quite small and simple).

TL;DR: I wouldn't be surprised if it's harder to support Win8 today than Win3.1 ;)

logifail• 2 years ago

you'll have almost zero chance to use anything modern

If you're developing for an embedded system, you may not want to use anything "modern".

jll29• 2 years ago

shame!

Deutsche Bahn is looking for Win 3.11 admin

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