Cervical Cancer incidence drops 65% in women who benefited from HPV vaccine

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/hpv-vaccine-cervical-cancer-rising-women-research-rcna134224

by Anon84 • 2 years ago

112 31 2 years ago

A huge health win, that was opposed by the religious right because preventing cervical cancer encourages teen sex. This is 13 years ago. The very women the GOP was arguing shouldn’t get vaccinated while campaigning for president.

Elections matter.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1800969/

pstuart• 2 years ago

The fact that vaccines have become politicized is testament to how off the rails things have gone. There's other subjects too, but vaccines had bipartisan support until recently.

mistermann4• 2 years ago

If people antagonize their outgroup members excessively, it can turn disagreement into total war.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anythin...

"It shouldn't be this way"...

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7374580-frodo-it-s-a-pity-b...

ddgflorida• 2 years ago

What was opposed was forced vaccines on teens using a new vaccine. Our own family doctor recommended we wait until a few years had passed. A few years later - we got the recommendation.

seattle_spring• 2 years ago

What was opposed was forced vaccines on teens using a new vaccine

Maybe in part, but there was a very large contingency that outright opposed it due to its perceived encouragement of "amoral" behavior. Exact same thing is happening now in the courts with Mifeprestone.

jonathankoren4• 2 years ago

This is ahistorical. While it may have been true for you, it was not the argument put forth at the time. I knew this projection would happen, and that is why I linked to a contemporaneous article.

Teen pregnancy was the most vocal reason at the time.

electrondood• 2 years ago

In case anyone here knows someone with high-risk HPV who was too old to benefit from these vaccines... this is my favorite medical study: a combination of Reishi and turkey tail mushrooms boost the body's clearance rate from 5% to 88% in a 2-month period [0].

I firmly believe this would have been 100% if they'd continued past 2 months.

A friend of mine had a positive pap test for high-risk HPV, and I sent her this study. She started on this combo of mushrooms and at her followup the next month she was clear.

[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25271984/

huytersd• 2 years ago

Is 5-88% the range or progression?

reaperman2• 2 years ago

HPV was "cured" (cleared) by the human body itself within 2 months in 5% of the control subjects (n=20) and in 88% of the test group (n=41).

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1615/intjmedmushrooms.v16.i5.80

matteoraso• 2 years ago

It's not often brought up, but there's several cancers caused by HPV that also affect men, like oral and penile cancer. I've long thought that the vaccine shouldn't just be marketed towards women.

tialaramex• 2 years ago

It isn't. Does the US not vaccinate boys? Most advanced countries began routinely vaccinating boys in the same cohort as girls. In the UK certainly "Men who have sex with Men" is the next most significant group targeted for vaccination, up to age 45.

The reason this didn't happen from the outset is that you can't vaccinate the boys to protect girls because that's not a direct benefit to the patient, the early data was specifically for cervical cancer and if you don't have a cervix that isn't a benefit.

anderber• 2 years ago

Europe vaccinated boys way before in the US. When I tried to get the vaccine back in college, I was denied. I argued that in Europe they were vaccinating boys, but to no avail.

In other words, at the time they knew the direct benefits for boys, but that wasn't a concern because girls had a higher rate of cancer from HPV. So they were prioritized.

adamredwoods• 2 years ago

They vaccinate boys. Our doctor recommended it, but I suspect it largely depends on the doctor.

londons_explore2• 2 years ago

can't vaccinate the boys to protect girls because that's not a direct benefit

Medical ethics doesn't allow a procedure which is good for society, but doesn't directly benefit the patient.

However, I think that is wrong. Elsewhere in society we frequently do that - for example we put people into prison, which is of very little benefit to the prisoner. We stand up to let an old person take a seat on a train, which is of no benefit to the person standing up. We send bailiffs, which is of little benefit to the debtor. We pay taxes, which is of little direct benefit to the taxpayer.

Why does the medical world have a stricter ethical standard when there are clearly benefits to society that cannot be realised because of the different approach?

31carmichael• 2 years ago

I'm a man and got the HPV vaccine in another country.

USA is very strange in this regard. Last summer, 4 out of 4 pharmacies refused to provide me a shingles vaccine, even if I paid them cash and had a doctor's prescription. They said that they would get into trouble. I am 49 years old. Had I been 50, any pharmacy would provide the vaccine.

This is simply retarded.

hulitu• 2 years ago

How many HPV vaccine producers exist besides Merck ? Are there any independent evaluation of those vaccines ? I only saw Merck literature on this topic.

snakeyjake• 2 years ago

Are there any independent evaluation of those vaccines ?

In the section of the linked statistical report from the American Cancer Society that covers HPV there are seven citations, none of which appear to be papers funded by Merck.

Cervical Cancer incidence drops 65% in women who benefited from HPV vaccine

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