Tech companies like Google and Meta made cuts to DEI programs in 2023

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/22/google-meta-other-tech-giants-cut-dei-programs-in-2023.html

by lopkeny12ko • 3 years ago

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akomtu• 3 years ago

Not only google and facebook. It's very visible that the amount of divisiveness has been down significantly. Edit: in fact, I don't remember when was the last time I heard the usual divisive lingo.

Racing0461• 3 years ago

we need higher interest rates.

local_crmdgeon2• 3 years ago

Good

userbinator• 3 years ago

Good. Maybe they're finally starting to realise what happens when they choose diversity hires over people who are actually qualified.

jppittma• 3 years ago

Hiring committee at google knows none of your demographic information. They never see your face, and make their hiring decision based on the written feedback from interviews. Diversity in this case meant bringing more diverse candidates into the pipeline, rather than lowering criteria for acceptance.

jedberg2• 3 years ago

Why would you assume DEI programs led to people who were unqualified being hired? I never saw that. What I saw was a pool of 100 equally qualified people, and recruiting biased towards reaching out only to certain sub-groups of those people. But they didn't lower the hiring bar. They just only actively recruited people from certain groups.

I also saw during rounds of promotions where HR would say "here are all of the diversity candidates in your org. Let's make sure we're evaluating them for promotion and actively working towards giving them work that will get them promoted".

I never saw a case where two people were interviewed and the "diversity candidate" was less qualified but hired. Nor did I ever see a case where a diversity candidate was promoted ahead of someone else. Each was hired or promoted based on their own merits. The DEI part was making sure there were more in the pipeline to look at.

local_crmdgeon2• 3 years ago

Why would you assume DEI programs led to people who were unqualified being hired?

Because I have seen it with my own eyes hundreds of times.

Are you talking about your time at Reddit? Because that hiring process produced the hire and defense of one Aimee Challenor - I wouldn't be proud of that.

gjsman-10003• 3 years ago

Hiring should be strictly meritocracy;

But training should be available to everyone.

peterfirefly6• 3 years ago

Even the stupid?

gjsman-10003• 3 years ago

If they are stupid, they’ll drop out of the training.

calebio• 3 years ago

sure. equal opportunity doesn't mean equal outcome.

LeafItAlone2• 3 years ago

Hiring should be strictly meritocracy

I’ve turned down hiring people who had more technical skills than who I did hire, because the more skilled people were assholes who would have ruined the team cohesiveness (which I have seen happen on previous teams). Skills aren’t the only thing that matter and “culture fit” is a real thing.

blastonico2• 3 years ago

Or...you're unable to lead high skilled people.

In my team, I always look for the best and manage to make them work well together.

chrismcb• 3 years ago

The op said "meritocracy" not "technical skills." There are other skills, such as people skills you need to also consider.

peterfirefly6• 3 years ago

Good.

say_it_as_it_is• 3 years ago

"With fewer diverse voices represented in AI development, the resulting products could be less accurate or more harmful to users."

DEI has never been about VIEWPOINT diversity.

blastonico2• 3 years ago

Diversity is indeed important, but these DEI departments are useless.

peterfirefly6• 3 years ago

Diversity of thought is important. Diversity of backgrounds is sometimes important. Diversity of skin colour is never -- by itself -- important.

(And diversity of quality of thought is problematic...)

dingdong33• 3 years ago

Finally. I hope our company follows their lead.

Tech companies like Google and Meta made cuts to DEI programs in 2023

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