peterfirefly

We are all Wigner's friend. That rock over there, those specks of dust here, the wings of all the butterflies, the moons of Titan, and SN 1987A. Everything is just Wigner's friend.

I just listened to it. I think she handled it remarkably well.

When rich people started having their kids educated with children of other rich people instead of at home by tutors.

Why? She went from crazy (that you sympathize with) to crazy (that you don't sympathize with). She was always crazy.

I'd say it makes it "fewer" true ;)

Surely we can agree that if such kids exist then they must be very, very few in number?

I don't think so. It was a "support" comment, not a "you're wrong" comment.

And then he became a Socialist with power. Seems to me he remained a Socialist.

The people who have managed to build countries people wish to live in are Euros or East Asian. Nothing intrinsically to do with their skin colour, of course, but it is a fact that some peoples have done it again and again (and again) and the rest haven't.

The sex tourists in Thailand and Cambodia are vile.

Most of those children wouldn't be able to communicate with their own parents, if that were the case.

Somalis are usually not spread out among the natives. They tend to clump together in ethnic enclaves where it is very easy to learn Somali (and where life is unpleasant for the unfortunate child who doesn't learn it).

Why? It is perfectly possible to be a legal immigrant and a parasite. It's even possible to be a completely homegrown native and a parasite. Wouldn't you call essentially all career criminals parasites?

But the dismantling of the democracy is proof that they were outside of the political spectrum.

That's very close to arguing that Communists aren't on the (far) left.

Spelling won't be a problem with either language, pronunciation will (likely) not be an issue with Finnish (depends on how well you handle phonemic vowel length).

Vocabulary will be tough. There are surprisingly many Germanic loanwords in Finnish, both new and very(!) old, but most of them are not obvious until you've studied the language for some time.

Grammar will also be tough. It's not just "a bunch of suffixes".

Some people can communicate really well without being good at the language they are using. I bet you are one of them!

That might be down to your personality... or the language barrier in the case of China (or you were in China before Xi or very early in his reign).

A2 is a depressingly low bar.

they don't speak the language - should they be forced to attend language school?

I disagree. They should learn the language of their own accord or get kicked out.

C1.

Yes! And I would expect immigrants in citizen-facing jobs in the public sector to be at C2.

It takes a lot longer if the immigrant groups are (locally) large. They are a lot more than just locally large in Sweden. It also takes a lot longer if the state bends over backwards to accommodate the immigrants, which Sweden does.

stronger in numbers. we are the majority still.

That won't last long among the young in Sweden, actually. Not if the current immigration policies continue, that is.

one montessori teacher can handle 30 children.

Montessori kids tend to have parents that produce better kids (both in the genetic sense and in terms of how they are raised).

It's a selection effect (also on the teacher side), not because they have a magic way of turning disruptive/dangerous/criminal kids into little angels.

First of all it causes migrants to destroy their documentation and to be less coöperative with the immigration process.

They already do that.

Not all cultures are compatible. It's nothing to do with "races".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_consul

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope

There ARE bad actors, they must be kept out.

There are very good (and well-documented) reasons to believe a large part of the recently immigrated foreigners in Sweden are exactly such bad actors.

Your arguments don't really work the way you seem to think they do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_finance_in_Sweden

is that any individual is able to pour millions into a political party of any persuasion.

It's an even bigger problem that political parties are heavily subsidized by the state, which favours the establishment.

This goes beyond purely monetary subsidies. Some people employed by the state have an essentially political function or have a large political influence over the population and they have been hired (and incentivized) by the established parties over decades.

don't understand the language

Seriously? It's not like the Somalis have been in Sweden that long.

Israel got an entire country out of it.

A less flamebaity response is that the Soviet Union ended up as one of the winners of the second world war. They lost a lot people (Stalin didn't care) but almost all of that was because of Stalin's incompetence (having killed most officers shortly before the war + sent millions to war without proper boots, uniforms, weapons, and ammo).

I see several pro-mass immigration posters who try to pretend opposition to mass immigration is about racism. Don't think any of them are bots.

Had I moved to, say, Hungary or Finland I'd probably have had a bit more trouble learning the language but that'd only have added a few months to the process.

Probably a lot more than just a few months. You underestimate how similar Indo-European languages are to each other -- and that you already have a background in English and French.

Maybe a year or two. I don't doubt you would have learned Hungarian/Finnish but it would not have been as easy as you seem to think.

In the mid 2000's, before the Big Crash, we suddenly had lots of work immigrants from Africa in Denmark. They were such a breath of fresh air in comparison to our Somalis. They actually spoke English before they came, they behaved civilized, and a lot of them managed to learn some Danish -- on their own, similarly to what you did with Swedish but without the Open University enrollment, so they did it even more on their own than you did.

That's what proper immigrants do, even if they are only here temporarily.

Ford is not as protected from competition in Europe.

They will mysteriously suddenly be able to afford houses (plural) without making much more than 50K a year.