Henry Kissinger Has Died

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/henry-kissinger-american-diplomat-nobel-winner-dead-100-2023-11-30/

by NaOH • 3 years ago

73 27 3 years ago

golergka• 3 years ago

The man who brought up a billion Chinese out of hunger and poverty by opening China to the world's labour markets and capitalism.

megous2• 3 years ago

And I thought people bring themselves out of poverty by hard work...

generalizations• 3 years ago

Nice to hear a contrarian opinion, especially if it’s a positive one.

acdha2• 3 years ago

The idea was DeGaulle’s, and the actual lifting was done by the Chinese. It’s one of the better things he did (except from the Taiwanese perspective) but it hardly exonerates the rest.

jmyeet2• 3 years ago

Evil may not live forever but it gets as close to it as it can.

How this war criminal [1] got a Nobel Peace Prize is mystifying.

[1] https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/05/henry-kissinger...

Hikikomori• 3 years ago

Well he ended the war no? Just had to prolong it so he could help end it. Got to bomb a few extra countries for fun as well. Nixon also called him 'his Jew boy's.

Quekid53• 3 years ago

I'm not one to celebrate good news, but I'll take it.

megous2• 3 years ago

Clearly, not a loved man. Judging by the comments, so far. :)

I wonder if people would flag bad comments on a death announcement of a child mass murderer, or some serial rapist.

Kye• 3 years ago

By some perspectives he is a mass murderer.

edit: was

batch12• 3 years ago

For me, it depends on the comment-- so maybe?

refurb• 3 years ago

I wouldn’t judge opinions of the man based on social media comments.

Most are the kind of self-righteousness that only youthful idealism can drive.

Not to mention the extent of opinions is often driven by their knowledge which unfortunately is only as deep as what a Jacobin article can provide.

acdha2• 3 years ago

Most of the people I hear your “youthful idealism” from are approaching retirement age. They’re the ones old enough to remember the Vietnam War, Chile, Argentina, East Timor, Bangladesh, etc. and also how he suffered no real consequences for his support.

082349872349872• 3 years ago

From what I could tell from one of his books, he believed that ends (in his case, preventing a repeat of the Great War, ie WWI) justify means.

(I neither share that basic belief nor believe that the known harms of the means he employed balanced the unknown —but in my eyes relatively small— risk which his end was to avoid)

Quekid53• 3 years ago

The embodiment of Realpolitik, except... he had extracurricular bombings to carry out, just because. You know? It happens.

baerrie• 3 years ago

Pretending to be able to predict what will or will not cause WWIII is insane

riffic• 3 years ago

Reuters didn't have anything more substantial than this prepared ahead of time?

xnx• 3 years ago

https://twitter.com/DidKissingerD1e 28K followers

Probiotic6081• 3 years ago

Not him, the man that has drafted the Paris peace accords

jmyeet2• 3 years ago

I know that reference [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKOenxiRaY

toomuchtodo2• 3 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger

h2odragon• 3 years ago

One of the obituaries to read with great satisfaction.

I can disagree with many things he did, but I do not doubt that he thought they needed to be done, for causes greater than his own rewards.

Quekid53• 3 years ago

I can disagree with many things he did, but I do not doubt that he thought they needed to be done, for causes greater than his own rewards.

Explain, please, what exactly he thought what these great causes and/or rewards were.

He was just an evil, opportunistic man.

Pxtl• 3 years ago

I actually disagree on that. He took every side on every issue depending on which way the wind was blowing. He knew exactly who to suck up to to get ahead of the game.

I don't think he actually believed in much at all.

kinj28• 3 years ago

Somehow I just remember him for his ill comments for Indira Gandhi & his hate towards Indians.

ChrisArchitect• 3 years ago

The Times piece is loonnng. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/29/us/henry-kissinger-dead.h... Whatever your feelings, the man touched alot of history.

JDEW• 3 years ago

https://archive.is/k8b8j

toomuchtodo2• 3 years ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38468326

Henry Kissinger Has Died

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