Wemux - Set up tmux for party pair programming

http://thechangelog.com/post/20986196780/wemux-multi-user-terminal-multiplexing-for-party-pair-pr

by netherland • 14 years ago

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gvb• 14 years ago

Very neat script. Zolrath (Matt Furden) is a member of HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3772678

ww5203• 14 years ago

This is very cool.

Off topic. What would be really cool is to have an Emacs buffer that can be edited by multiple people. Then pair programming can be done within the editor. Is there such thing?

heretohelp2• 14 years ago

> What would be really cool is to have an Emacs buffer that can be edited by multiple people. Then pair programming can be done within the editor. Is there such thing?

As always with Emacs, been there, coded that:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Rudel

ww5203• 14 years ago

Yes! This is amazing. Found something new with Emacs every once a while.

technomancy2• 14 years ago

Rudel is nice for working on a single document, but tmux is much nicer for pair programming since it synchronizes the whole screen rather than buffer by buffer. That way you don't have to talk through "OK, I'm switching over to this other file now". Plus it works with things like shells and repls. So I'd use Rudel more in a collaborative note-taking context than a programming one.

sgrove• 14 years ago

I'm actually working on a websockets implementation in emacs to be able to connect to a sharejs server, so multiple parties can edit the same document regardless of where it's hosted or with what editor - but I ran into a snag with some of the byte functions and haven't revisited it for a few days. But I absolutely agree :)

ww5203• 14 years ago

That's great. Love to see it when it's done. Keep up the good work.

aantix• 14 years ago

This is quite amazing and has been badly needed for sometime. The tmux technical setup prior may have inhibited some developers out there.

The importance of remote pair programming seems to be slowly making its way to the forefront. I've been toying with the idea of a high level protocol specifically for pair programming that would support the notification of high level programming tasks (switching tab, syncing file changes, showing highlights, cursor movement). This protocol would be light enough that latency should be a mine issue. It would have to be supported in all major editors (via a plugin?). This supported would give each remote dev the freedom to work in their favorite editor with their own key bindings.

Here are some of my additional thoughts on the topic.. https://gist.github.com/1999816

sktrdie• 14 years ago

Doesn't GNU Screen support this out of the box?

otoburb• 14 years ago

I believe GNU Screen supports mirror mode (read-only) and pair mode (one shared cursor), but rogue mode (two independent cursors, shared terminal) is the real differentiation from GNU Screen.

Great for remote teams who are heavily command-line based (developers and deployment folks).

qznc• 14 years ago

Can tmux give two client the same window, but different panes? This means they can see each others cursor on another part of the window.

cldwalker• 14 years ago

Yep. Pair and rogue mode

tkahn6• 14 years ago

What theme/plugins are you using in that screenshot?

Edit: Thanks!

netherland• 14 years ago

It looks like a combo of vim-powerline, stock tmux status line, and the status line that wemux adds.

https://github.com/Lokaltog/vim-powerline

Zolrath2• 14 years ago

I wrote up a description of how to duplicate that status line at: https://github.com/zolrath/wemux/wiki/Status-Line

Color Theme is https://github.com/nanotech/jellybeans.vim

CoffeeDregs• 14 years ago

OT, but: I'm jealous of some people's abilities to come up with such clever names.

Full-derail: anyone seen any pointers to thinking up such names? Perhaps an Emacs command or mode? Or am I looking for a shortcut to a hard problem? Whatever it is, I'd appreciate it in pill-form (capsule please; none of that nasty tablet stuff).

technomancy2• 14 years ago

I always pick my names from obscure fictional characters: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/hus94/the_ruby_...

Just read lots of fiction and keep a scratch pad next to you while you do.

Skywing• 14 years ago

When I see tools like this, I'm jealous of the people who actually get to put them to good use. I program for a living, but at my current job I would be shocked if anyone even knew what tmux was ... heck, even SSH. At home I do use some very "cutting edge" tools, but still can't picture myself being in a scenario, anytime soon, where Wemux solves a problem of mine. I wish I could see myself in that scenario, though. So, who uses these tools and are you hiring? :)

devin• 14 years ago

Unfortunately mosh didn't place nice with wemux, but I used it today for several hours. Rogue mode was nice.

Thanks zolrath.

Zolrath2• 14 years ago

Mosh doesn't play nice with wemux specifically or tmux as a whole? Glad you liked it, in any case! I'd love to hear any comments/questions/suggestions anyone has, I'd like wemux to be as good as it can be!

altxwally• 14 years ago

This looks great! I tried it with the default settings and could share a sessions very easily. On the other hand I'm trying to use `wemux rogue` but I get the following:

  wemux rogue
  unknown command: rogue
  To see a list of wemux commands enter 'wemux help'...

And wemux help does not list `wemux rogue` as one of the options. I installed it by following the `brew install` process in the README.

silasb• 14 years ago

Does anyone else have a horrible time getting to thechangelog.com I keep getting errors that says their server is down :(

benji-york• 14 years ago

I'm really glad remote pairing is getting such inventive attention lately. I have, however, been a little disappointed that the mode of collaborating that I prefer doesn't seem to be well supported.

Many people can't or don't want to grant login access to their local development machine in order to share a screen/tmux session and using a mutually accessible machine means leaving behind or laboriously duplicating the local development experience.

I've used hacks to get what I want (https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/RemoteTerminalBroadcasting) but I haven't found anything truly satisfying yet.

Wemux - Set up tmux for party pair programming

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