Europe’s hidden security crisis

https://www.iccl.ie/digital-data/europes-hidden-security-crisis/

by c16 • 3 years ago

76 16 3 years ago

tptacek• 3 years ago

The proper title for this piece is "Europe's hidden security crisis". Ironically, the title it has now ("Could be bigger than Cambridge Analytica") is probably less likely to draw in readers, not more.

tempodox• 3 years ago

I thought there was a rule about not editorializing post titles on HN...

dang3• 3 years ago

There certainly is! - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html - but it's a manual process to correct these things - which takes a while and often requires someone to let us know.

Submitters: if you want to say what you think is important about an article, that's fine, but do it by adding a comment to the thread. Then your view will be on a level playing field with everyone else's: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

(Submitted title was "Could be bigger than Cambridge Analytica (5B people)")

guiriduro• 3 years ago

Sounds ideal for child kidnappers, extorters, contract killers etc. Also sounds like the kind of thing that should be covered by an updated GDPR, something EU citizens should be able to easily opt out of en masse, not done on a per-site basis. Close down the Google and MS ad data and tracking factories.

fifteen1506• 3 years ago

That won't happen. Forbid RTB in its current mode of operation to force advancement.

seydor• 3 years ago

There are easier ways. Powerful spyware targetting politicians is now available for sale. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57910355

There are already a number of scandals in europe

wolverine8762• 3 years ago

Even easier and completely legal: Data brokers will now sell you info on segments such as 'judges', 'elected officials', 'military personnel', 'national security officials', etc.

https://www.ft.com/content/6c8f1f24-b690-4bbd-b726-28b2d6f10...

Edit: I realize now that the FT article is a report on the OP. Oops.

cmrdporcupine2• 3 years ago

When I worked in RTB (about 10 years ago), the profile information sent as part of the bid request was really quite low granularity and very anonymized. There wasn't a lot there, just fairly broad demographics.

With cookie matching and third party data services, you could in theory extend this. But obfuscation of tracking cookies and so on was enforced by the bigger parties like Google AdX, etc. so that it wasn't usually all that feasible.

Has this changed significantly?

The various cookie matching and data markets out there are more disturbing to me than RTB itself?

wolverine8762• 3 years ago

I'm not sure what you mean. Is the OP report incorrect somehow, and that data is not available?

cmrdporcupine2• 3 years ago

I don't know, ask the people who downvoted me, they apparently know better than me.

SenAnder2• 3 years ago

Repeat after me:

"I have nothing to hide. I know for a fact that I am not now, nor will I ever be in the future, in a position that a political domestic, foreign, or corporate competitor adversary would wish to influence, or any opinions a present or future government or employer would wish to suppress, because I am an Ordinary Person.

I do not have, nor will I ever have, influence or access to union negotiations or elections, a vote on the local council to authorize development or zoning, a role in any political party, valuable technological know-how, an open-source project useful for supply-chain attacks, a role in legal proceedings someone may wish to influence or sabotage, access to critical infrastructure like railways, hydroelectric plants, electric supply, water supply, or telecom equipment, or any important military or strategic knowledge, nor do I develop any software that those in power dislike, such as encrypted messaging, file-sharing, ad-blocking, or surveillance-evading like TOR.

Nor do I know any such people, so I cannot be compelled to influence them.

I do not do, say, or watch anything my spouse, parents, children, friends, teachers, employer, police, or government would object to. I am an Ordinary Person, and have nothing to hide. I do not worry how my society will change when those who are not ordinary are attacked."

dang3• 3 years ago

It looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. We ban accounts that do that, regardless of which ideology they're battling for or against. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for—no matter what you're battling for or against.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

SenAnder2• 3 years ago

I understand your objection to my other recent posts, but what is the issue with this one? It has a few rhetorical flourishes, but it doesn't seem like ideological battle to me.

But maybe I'm missing something - while it didn't start any arguments, some did object to it enough to get it flagged.

araes• 3 years ago

Anybody know of a way to look up the data available on yourself over these Real-Time Bidding (RTB) broadcasts? (Similar to page 11 of the report) [1]

It would be fascinating/creepy to see what category ad networks have lumped me into or assigned to me based on my viewing habits.

"We believe you're a dairy farmer who works in the defense industry."

[1] https://www.iccl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Europes-hidde...

Europe’s hidden security crisis

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