There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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by Topfi • 3 years ago

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Topfi• 3 years ago

Sam Altman just posted the following on X:

>there is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT; you should hopefully find it a lot better!

please let us know what you think.<<

ChatGPT in this case is most likely referring to the implementation accessible via https://chat.openai.com/, once again raising questions for myself whether and how this change may impact the model accessible via their API gpt-4-1106-preview. Does "new version" mean what has been accessible via the chat website was less capable than gpt-4-1106-preview and if so, in what manner, or is gpt-4-1106-preview going to receive certain improvements that are currently being tested via the chat website?

I'd love to see more clarity on that front.

samrolken• 3 years ago

I'm guessing the reason the model is listed as "preview" is so that they have this leeway to tweak it and optimize it as needed, for example in terms of the balance between performance/cost and capability which seems to be the case here.

retskrad• 3 years ago

At $10/month, ChatGPT-4 is reasonable. At $20, that's a no no!

hhh• 3 years ago

why?

terhechte• 3 years ago

I use it usually 10-20 times per day. 5-10 when I'm not working and like 20-30 when I'm working. It saves me a huge amount of time. It would already make sense at a wage of $20 but I earn more and so it is so much worth it. Even if I earn no wage (say a indie dev working on a game) it would still be useful because I save time which I can invest in other things (or play video games). I'd honestly pay $50-$100 for it as it saves me so much time and gives me so much value.

gumballindie6• 3 years ago

Why are reddit and forums full of people asking how to make chatgpt code work, and are always downvoted?

iot_devs• 3 years ago

What do you use it for?

broast2• 3 years ago

Same

danielvaughn4• 3 years ago

Same, I'd pay way more than $20/month. It saves me so much time it's insane. For the past several months I'd been trying to write a tree sitter parser, and I had a really hard time with the docs for some reason. I sat down with ChatGPT and had a working V1 parser in like 3 hours. And it wasn't just feeding me instructions, I was actively conversing with it, going off into tangents when I didn't understand something, etc. It's just...magic. I love it.

I do feel morally conflicted about how humanity built the entire internet basically for free, and OpenAI is just regurgitating it back to us and getting rich off of our collective data. But the tool is so goddamn useful that I can't help myself regardless.

apwell2311• 3 years ago

You seem like a power user .

Can you tell me why it can't process basic questions

https://chat.openai.com/c/19a2280c-1dc6-4f77-9313-c61ff4be4d...

What am I doing wrong here ?

gmuslera• 3 years ago

The value it haves for you may exceed or not its price. But "you" is an important part of that equation.

gumballindie6• 3 years ago

What value does a procedural text generator provide?

zarzavat• 3 years ago

You have to consider costs. If it costs them $15/month to provide the service (just a made up number) then $10/month would not be reasonable. The Plus users also subsidize the Free users to a certain extent.

The other effect at work here is anchoring. OpenAI wants people to be prepared to pay more for AI. Setting a higher price anchors that price in people’s minds and makes it feel normal. This will serve them better in the future since the long-term objective is to provide services that replace employees, who are surely paid more than $20/month.

somewhereoutth• 3 years ago

But therein lies the crucial question, does the actual business value of the service exceed the costs of running the service + reasonable profit margin? If not, then no amount of anchoring will help.

raincole• 3 years ago

Nah, you have to consider how much time it saves for you. If your rate is $30/hr and ChatGPT saves you 1 hours per month more than free alternatives then why not?

Cost is their business, not yours (unless you're a competitor to them).

TeMPOraL5• 3 years ago

Even now that it has image generation via DALL-E 3, image comprehension via GPT-4V, and the Android app can hold a voice conversation with you, with unprecedented voice recognition accuracy?

apwell2311• 3 years ago

what would a ordinary person use all these for beyond curiosities?

I pay for but i only use it handful of times after i remind myself to use it .

unsupp0rted• 3 years ago

For me it’s a steal at 5x the price. Maybe 10x.

op00to2• 3 years ago

Not until they stop training on my conversations.

thejackgoode• 3 years ago

I cannot get used to American custom of advertising gross and charging net prices. It's 24.20 and would be nice to discuss it as such

smallnix• 3 years ago

How can I check which version is serving me?

murkt• 3 years ago

Just ask it!

fassssst2• 3 years ago

The new model combined with the GPTs feature is incredible. I made 10 GPTs yesterday.

My favorite is Meme Machine, where you just specify a concept like "return to office, safari animals" and it generates an image with DALL-E and then composites text over it using Python:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/17tb7rm/mememachin...

I noticed all my GPTs started working better yesterday, must have been the new model rollout.

fassssst2• 3 years ago

I just added one paragraph to my Meme Machine GPT, and now it can generate animated gifs with DALL-E.

Try it here: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-MP5Cx7F7W-meme-machine

samskot• 3 years ago

Does anyone know if it has better speed or overall knowledge and reasoning capabilities?

jerpint2• 3 years ago

Not sure if it’s related or not but I noticed the UX has changed on the web interface and when I ask for code, it now defaults to running it through an interpreter with a hidden view by default. This is very annoying to me as I want to mostly read the code, not have it be executed without any context

logicchains• 3 years ago

On the bright side, in some cases at least it includes a test case, runs it, and if it fails then reads the error and tries to fix the code, all in a single run.

alfonsodev• 3 years ago

are you writing Python code? I wonder if this behavior just applies to Python as I recall code interpreter is Python only.

jerpint2• 3 years ago

Yes mostly python

DonHopkins3• 3 years ago

Is it smart enough to solve the halting problem and not bother running code with infinite loops?

appplication• 3 years ago

Infinite loops and the halting problem are separate issues. You can detect infinite loops with basic static analysis.

rockemsockem2• 3 years ago

The practical solution to the halting problem is to be impatient and just kill any computation that takes longer than N minutes

pllbnk• 3 years ago

Now it also annoyingly searches almost anything on Bing. I was interested in some coffee machine recommendation/research and it started searching on Bing, which I would have done myself if I wanted to do that. Only after explicitly instructing it not to search for information online I could start asking it the interesting questions.

There is a new version of GPT-4 Turbo now live in ChatGPT

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