Mark Zuckerberg: ‘It’s time to move on’ from potential fight with Elon Musk

https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/8/13/23830500/mark-zuckerberg-its-time-to-move-on-from-potential-fight-with-elon-musk

by pg_1234 • 3 years ago

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fullshark2• 3 years ago

Nice quotes, he comes out looking the best from all this nonsense so I'm gonna score him the winner.

consumer451• 3 years ago

I am close with someone at Meta. Elon speed running most-hated-man has really taken a load off of Meta employees.

HeWhoLurksLate• 3 years ago

What happened to Elon? A couple years ago he was pretty darn respected and had tesla and SpaceX beating the odds in two very difficult industries, and now he just feels like a dork.

Icarus syndrome?

xenospn• 3 years ago

He was always like this. He just didn’t have the spotlight on him, and most importantly, he didn’t talk as much.

PartiallyTyped• 3 years ago

Maybe he had PR people handling all his communication before, and after the whole crypto/doge and stock manipulation allegations they decided to step away so as to not get incriminated or otherwise caught up in the investigations?

alex_duf• 3 years ago

Oh he had plenty of spotlight time. He's just been slowly descending into nonsense.

My theory is: he's surrounding himself by people who put him on a pedestal and will therefore only be yes-men. In such a situation I imagine that you lose track of what's a reasonable way of thinking, and possibly remove the few remaining sensible people out of your life because they tend to disagree with you.

p1mrx• 3 years ago

I think he ran out of good ideas. Electric vehicles and computer-controlled rockets would've happened eventually, but he had enough money and insight to light the fuses at the right time.

He found two bits of low-hanging fruit, picked them, and started taking random useless actions when he couldn't find more.

deprecative4• 3 years ago

He bought into Tesla; he didn't come up with the ideas nor found it. SpaceX came at a time when NASA was investing in private companies to replace the shuttle program (and more). He didn't come up with any of the ideas there, either. As far as I can tell he hasn't invented anything of note.

over_bridge• 3 years ago

I think people are unfair to Elon and color his past actions with the taint of his present ones.

Tesla and SpaceX are massive achievements. The space industry was basically dead for years and electric cars were considered a joke or toy.

Elon doesn't do everything, and he often unfairly overshadows his team, but he is great at getting attention (from investors and customers) and he's gifted at optimizing manufacturing processes. I'm really impressed with how he speaks about assembly lines in particular and the relentless drive for simplicity. I'm less impressed by the empty promises, but he does inspire many with his vision.

The problem is when he leaves his lane and assumes his success in one domain translates to all domains. He's hardly the first successful person to lose their mind when they reach the top. We often talk about how inequality is bad for the average person but for me, it's shocking to see what it does to the people at the top too. Soaring at that height they leave reality far below.

3cats-in-a-coat2• 3 years ago

He was a dork with some self-restraint, and several layers of people managing him, as he's effective at drawing capital and talent with bold promises (not covered by reality) and visions of the future. He was always a dorky con-man, but he was useful in that role. As long as people didn't see what he truly was.

What happened here is those layers kept getting new holes. By him becoming increasingly bolder posting on Twitter, and now by trying to run it without his trusty lieutenants. The stress of buying Twitter and it losing billions, unstoppably, is adding to his self-restraint fading away. This is Elon, himself.

Always was.

And... it's hard to believe this, but Twitter can change you, addict you to certain behaviors, even if you're a billionaire. He craves the likes, the retweets, the replies. Despite being the richest person, he's incredibly lonely. Everyone around him is fake, trying to stay afloat and maybe profit somehow from their proximity to Musk, or having no choice. He has no friends, no wife. And he has no connection with his children aside from couple of photo ops per year with "lil X".

Twitter is his social life. And Twitter wants circus. So he delivers.

panick21_6• 3 years ago

The claim that he was managed by layers of people is simply false. Talk to any journalist who interacted with him. Musk has always been incredibly public and incredibly outspoken on anything he cared about.

Mountain_Skies• 3 years ago

He's the same, his public perception changed when he went against some aspects of the pandemic response. Now things that would have brought him praise are ignored and the weird things that would have been ignored or considered quirky are amplified with a negative wash on them.

Veserv• 3 years ago

Nothing. This is the person he has always been. He just always sent his rabid investors and lawyers to intimidate people into silence. It just stopped working once he started doing it to people who can actually pay a legal bill.

TrackerFF• 3 years ago

Musk has admitted to having Asperger's, which in itself isn't that big of a deal - but they (people with Asperger's) can become quite obsessed with things. Some of the social aspects can also be lacking, which in turn can be mistaken for narcissism.

He knows he's smart, he has a burning passion for what he does, and he's probably been surrounded by sycophants for decades now.

lucubratory• 3 years ago

There are millions of people with autism. Only one of them is Elon Musk. The problem isn't the autism.

midasuni• 3 years ago

A couple of years ago he was shouting at a guy who rescued some kids from a cave and calling him a pedo

panick21_6• 3 years ago

Nothing. The difference literally is that he started to talk about politics. Having followed SpaceX for a long time, Musk is milostly the same guy. The "pedo guy" thing was the first big turning point, the second big turning point was the free speech absolutism all that followed from that.

solumunus• 3 years ago

Intelligent people paying close attention have almost never respected him, or they at least realised he was wildly overrated. Elon fell in love with the limelight and inevitably his true character is becoming exposed, very publicly.

paulpauper• 3 years ago

so elon would have to make a Threads account? that would be funny

add-sub-mul-div• 3 years ago

"I think we can all agree Elon isn’t serious and it’s time to move on" is also more or less what I was thinking when I deleted my Twitter account.

spread_love• 3 years ago

Old Man Musk can talk it, can't walk it. This playground provocation was boring enough when it started, good call by zuck.

sillywalk• 3 years ago

Zuckerberg thinks it could produce a $Billion in revenue.

I would watch this fight, even though I have zero interest in MMA fighting, but I wouldn't pay money to watch it.

Mark Zuckerberg: ‘It’s time to move on’ from potential fight with Elon Musk

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