WH Orders Selected Reserve and Certain IRR of the Armed Forces to Active Duty

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/07/13/ordering-the-selected-reserve-and-certain-members-of-the-individual-ready-reserve-of-the-armed-forces-to-active-duty/

by remarkEon • 3 years ago

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nullindividual• 3 years ago

Maximum of 3,000 troops in support of Operation Atlantic Resolve.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-action...

xemoka• 3 years ago

And where Operation Atlantic Resolve is the US activities in response to the conflict in Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Atlantic_Resolve

jasonladuke0311• 3 years ago

Activating IRR is such a shit move. I wonder if it’s only for certain critical MOS or something. Can’t imagine getting out of the military and having to go back (happened to friends of mine)

red-iron-pine• 3 years ago

Best guess: specialist systems like EW or missiles that are being stretched by Ukraine support. IRR also got raided before Iraq II for linguists and certain intelligence specialists as well.

Pull back some of the Russian language specialists or ELINT analysts specializing in late-Soviet or post-Soviet systems, etc.

"Guess what killer, you're the only expert on Borisoglebsk-2 who doesn't have a drinking problem. Welcome back."

Could see them doing similar for Chinese system specialists or linguists.

landemva• 3 years ago

It's almost like something in political water compels USA to be actively fighting all the time. USA had wasted lived and enormous treasure over the past three decades, and keeps losing.

johnea3• 3 years ago

By "keeps loosing" you're obviously not refering to Lockheed-Martin shareholders:

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/02/24/war-is-great-fo...

johnea3• 3 years ago

Sorry landemva, me reeplying to your post probably contributed to you being at the bottom of the comments.

Welcome to the bottom of the tech brat hierarchy...

I hang out here a lot.

torstenvl6• 3 years ago

This headline is grossly inaccurate. The White House has not ordered anybody to active duty. "I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense . . . to order to [them to] active duty." The only thing that has happened is that SECDEF may authorize it. I am not aware of any services asking to do so at this time. This order does nothing more than to put the authority in place, should it be needed.

Additionally, while not inaccurate, "certain IRR" is putting it lightly. This only applies to IRR members who are both:

(1) "in the Individual Ready Reserve mobilization category," which is 100% voluntary under 10 U.S.C. § 10144(b)(1)(A); AND

(2) "designated as essential."

Lastly, even that number is capped: "not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve."

riscy4• 3 years ago

Are you suggesting the White House’s own headline “Ordering the Selected Reserve and Certain Members of the Individual Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty” is grossly inaccurate too?

Isn’t the SECDEF under direct orders from the president who signed this order?

torstenvl6• 3 years ago

There's a difference between "WH Orders..." and "WH issues policy on 'Ordering...'".

"Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

remarkEon2• 3 years ago

I hear you, but I merely copy/pasted the title from the White House press release and slightly truncated it to fit the character limit. I get your point that this isn't like, say, stop loss during OIF. But it's still noteworthy, and it's going to be interesting to think about which MOS's are short such that this policy needs to be explored in the first place. That's honestly why I submitted the link in the first place, because there's a well known/reported recruiting problem in the armed forces right now.

And if I recall correctly you still have to be in the IRR if it was part of your MSO, but you can "opt in" as well. Might be wrong, it's been a while.

torstenvl6• 3 years ago

strlen("Ordering") < strlen("WH Orders")

You also had the option of using the accepted abbreviation of "SelRes"

tmaly• 3 years ago

I guess the next question that comes to mind is, will the Sec of Defense call the order or not?

torstenvl6• 3 years ago

For SelRes, probably. For IRR MC, almost certainly not.

This 2021 report from the Congressional Research Service indicates that the military "has not made it a priority to fill this mobilization category and currently there are no members assigned to it. Thus, the [12304] authority is effectively limited to members of the Selected Reserve at present."

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL30802

neverrroot• 3 years ago

Every escalation has a humble beginning

WH Orders Selected Reserve and Certain IRR of the Armed Forces to Active Duty

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