Court Filings Suggest Google Fighting Feds Over Megaupload Emails

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by Slimy • 14 years ago

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maeon3• 14 years ago

I see a re-occurring theme here, The government is trying to use corporations to help it control the people. I just had a thought, how about we start creating corporations that make it easy for the people to control the government? No doubt this would be probably considered evil, about as evil as what the government is doing now, enforcing American law all over the world.

1. Use corporations to get bills pushed through or stopped in congress.

2. Corporations to get people freed from prison, people put into prison, without due process.

3. Corporations to apply pressure and pit agency against agency to get gag orders on government waste machines that flush taxpayer money.

4. etc.

The government is trying to use corporations all around us to turn the citizens into slaves without freedom. In Florida here the government is farming out automated traffic law citations and collections to some company in new york. If you fight it, you are punished with more fines.

We need to get the corporations back on our sides, get them on the side of the entity who pays their light bill.

thurn• 14 years ago

If there isn't a profit motive behind the actions, it's hard to see what you'd gain from the burden of being incorporated instead of being a non-profit. Getting laws passed where there is a profit motive is not really a problem.

ThaddeusQuay2• 14 years ago

Corporations are agents of the government, because they exist at the pleasure of the government. In the US, a corporation essentially requires a "license", which is comprised of a veritable tree of federal, state and local permissions, with the papers of incorporation being at the root. Much like a driver's license, which gives the holder the privilege of driving, a corporate license gives the corporation the privilege of doing business. There is no "right" to drive or to be a corporation, and therefore, a corporation will never willfully break the rules to the extent that the government would pull its metaphoric license to exist. Wishful thinking, wherein you see corporations as possibly becoming somehow righteous, cannot alter these basic facts.

csoghoian• 14 years ago

Note, that the connection to the megaupload case is 100% based on speculation by the Paidcontent author (unless he was tipped to the existence of the documents in the docket.. he doesn't say how he stumbled across them).

What we do know for sure is that Google received a 2703(d) order (for non-content and subscriber info) and a search warrant (which could reveal communications content). Google later asked the court to unseal the orders.

I'm not sure why the government would seek both a d order and a search warrant for the same account (since a warrant also allows you to get everything that a d order delivers).

One possible option might be that the warrant (probable cause standard) was for one particular target for which the gov had more evidence, whereas the d order was used for other targets in the same investigation for which the government could only meet the "relevance to an ongoing criminal investigation" standard.

The recent order related to the continued sealing of the 2703(d)order: http://ia700807.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.vaed.27...

The related order regarding the continued sealing of the search warrant: http://ia600804.us.archive.org/18/items/gov.uscourts.vaed.27...

Court Filings Suggest Google Fighting Feds Over Megaupload Emails

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