Outrageous success - genius or hard work ? Malcolm Gladwell analyses.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/nov/15/malcolm-gladwell-outliers-extract

by whyleyc • 18 years ago

12 7 18 years ago

guardian.co.uk

An extract from Malcolm Gladwell's forthcoming new book, "Outliers: The Story Of Success". Looks at Bill Gates, Mozart, Rockefeller and the Beatles.

philelly• 18 years ago

old definition of genius: exceedingly rare brain abnormality that confers exceptional intelligence.

gladwell definition of genius: exceedingly rare brain abnormality that confers drive to devote 10,000 hours to a random task.

forgive me if i don't feel inspired by this paradigm shift.

Ardit20• 18 years ago

You seem to miss the point which is rather clear. Genius is not Inate, It is man made. Basically he is saying that it is nurture which makes genius and not nature.

So just to explain it more clearly, it is the environmental circumstances which make a genius and not his genes.

agraphmaul• 18 years ago

Thank you for your contribution. Is it really impossible that a genetic difference accounts for some of a person's willingness and/or ability to devote the huge amount of effort that's required to become a 'genius' in any pursuit? I propose we extend your theory: the total inability to grasp complexity is also attributable entirely to environmental circumstances.

bk• 18 years ago

I'm reading the book, and although everyone online latches on to the 10,000 hours hook, Gladwell's hypothesis is much more ecological, in the sense that it's not (primarily) some innate drive that gives "geniuses" (i.e. accomplished people) their edge, but the subtle stimuli/reinforcements people get from advantageous environments.

jerf• 18 years ago

Genious in 10,000 hours in 10 years is challenging to obtain, and may indeed still require something special.

Can you do 10,000 hours in 25 years, though? You may still not be as recognized as Gates, but you'll have "da skillz".

Programmers do get one advantage, which is that our careers and our hobbies can coincide in ways that many can't (though it is not unique in this way).

Locke• 18 years ago

On a related note, if you find this line of thought interesting, you'd probably enjoy Steve Martin's Born Standing Up.

It's a beautifully written memoir in which he tells the story of how he became one of the most successful stand-up comedians ever. I'm not much of a reader, but for what it's worth, it's probably the best thing I've read this year. And, yes, it reinforces the idea that "genius" is often the result of years of hard work and trial and error.

brandnewlow• 18 years ago

Seconded. And it's completely BS-free. He uses very few adjectives and writes almost entirely in declarative sentences. The book's astonishingly unembellished and plain, relying on the facts as he remembers them. Totally readable in four hours or so.

Outrageous success - genius or hard work ? Malcolm Gladwell analyses.

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