Twitter Fails to Remove 99% of Hate Speech by Blue-Check Users

https://www.thedailybeast.com/twitter-fails-to-remove-hate-speech-by-blue-check-users-says-report-from-center-for-countering-digital-hate

by davidbarker • 3 years ago

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ggm• 3 years ago

Just leave. It's truth social venn-diagramming it's way into your life.

klyrs• 3 years ago

This was the goal, wasn't it?

Slava_Propanei• 3 years ago

Twitter fails to censor paying customers! Horreur!

henriquez• 3 years ago

What is “hate speech?”

Dig1t4• 3 years ago

“Hate speech” is a broad term that can mean basically any speech that you don’t like.

Twitter’s new policy is “freedom of speech, but not necessarily freedom of reach” and it seems to be going okay.

You should be able to say what you want but that doesn’t mean that it’ll be able to trend. It also means that Twitter is not in the business of making judgements on what is socially acceptable to say.

Also the new community notes feature has been great for countering misinformation/extremely biased takes. They only appear when a mix of people who have diverse backgrounds have said that they are useful, which I think is pretty balanced.

saurik2• 3 years ago

Twitter’s new policy is “freedom of speech, but not necessarily freedom of reach” and it seems to be going okay.
You should be able to say what you want but that doesn’t mean that it’ll be able to trend. It also means that Twitter is not in the business of making judgements on what is socially acceptable to say.

Unless you say something which annoys Elon, or try to tell people about Mastadon.

https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...

Dig1t4• 3 years ago

Elon publicly admitted that the Mastodon policy was a mistake and has since retracted that policy.

WRT the elonjet thing, they have a policy against doxxing.

Twitter also banned Sweeney’s personal account and his other two accounts tracking the private jets of Donald Trump and Mark Zuckerberg.

Seems like it was applied fairly to me.

badwolf• 3 years ago

Or say negative things about Erdogan right before an election...

ttfkam2• 3 years ago

Hate speech is defined by the Cambridge Dictionary as "public speech that expresses hate or encourages violence towards a person or group based on something such as race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation".

This I believe is the definition being used in the link, not just "basically any speech that you don't like."

mansion7• 3 years ago

We have in recent memory seen valid criticisms against, for example, Kamala Harris dismissed as racist/sexist, criticisms of Ilhan Omar as "islamophobic", criticisms of George Soros as "anti-Semitic", criticisms of drag shows for kids and grown men in girl's dressing rooms as "transphobia" and "literal violence".

"Hate speech" is the new "think of the children". An easy (and socially acceptable, apparently) way to silence and smear critics.

Dig1t4• 3 years ago

The problem, I think, is that "encourages violence" can mean anything. Any negative thing or insult can be construed to be encouraging violence, all it takes is for someone to say "hey this is encouraging violence against me" and it becomes hate speech.

The Babylon Bee is the perfect example of this. They were banned from Twitter for making an obvious joke about a trans person, because any joke at the expense of trans people was considered hate speech. Why? Well because they consider anything negative said about them to be encouraging violence. There was no objective measure, it was all about feelings.

In my, and some other peoples', opinion, Free speech is broken in a world where I can silence you by claiming you made me feel attacked.

There are a million other examples of this kind of thing happening under the old Twitter leadership.

wizofaus2• 3 years ago

It also means that Twitter is not in the business of making judgements on what is socially acceptable to say

On the surface this makes sense, except it's ignoring the reality that online-based communications sidesteps all our built-in controls that exist around behaving/communicating in a "socially acceptable" manner. Nobody needs to police what we say to each other face-to-face because there will be repercussions if you make a habit of saying regularly hateful things (esp. in a manner that's broadcast/audible by a large audience), but the same isn't true by default on a platform like Twitter.

Dig1t4• 3 years ago

I think cancel culture is exactly the example of what you're talking about though. There ARE consequences for people who say socially unacceptable things on social media, so much so that it has its own phrase in our lexicon now.

How many times has some famous, or non-famous for that matter, person faced backlash because of something they said on social media? It's such a thing that there's an entire episode of Family Guy about it, where Brian gets cancelled and people stand outside his house telling him to kill himself for making a bad joke on Twitter.

searealist• 3 years ago

Twitter pre-musk also didn't remove the racist hate speech by Sarah Jeong.

BulgarianIdiot• 3 years ago

Elon currently looking for who the hell removed that 1%.

Twitter Fails to Remove 99% of Hate Speech by Blue-Check Users

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