Get Ready for Team America: AI Police

https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/25/white_house_ai/

by LinuxBender • 3 years ago

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aszantu• 3 years ago

They having a hard time protecting individual rights w/o ai... This isn't going to end well I fear

Technotroll2• 3 years ago

What gives you the impression that they're trying to protect the rights of individuals?

samcheng• 3 years ago

The title is a reference to this classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtJJC0nWs9s

(Warning: it's quite vulgar)

akiselev• 3 years ago

Can’t wait for the Terminator puppetshow

avgcorrection5• 3 years ago

How do you make a parody of American imperialism without being vulgar?

TeMPOraL2• 3 years ago

The Soviets did it with class - just watch any documentary they made about the United States, or any work of fiction set therein.

peepeepoopoo7• 3 years ago

That was a fantastic movie, although it would probably make a lot of the culture warriors on this site pretty angry lmao.

nicoco• 3 years ago

You would probably call me a culture warrior and yet I'm a Team America: World Police and South Park fan.

mmaunder• 3 years ago

We need some AI.

ok!

And we need to say something about it being dangerous.

Ok!

Ok.

Technotroll2• 3 years ago

Most people who don't know how AI really works, all seem to think tht it's the AI that is intrinsically dangerous. Except for AI to be effective, you need an organization, you need caretakers, and you need a body that directs it. At least for now.

The people who are in charge of that system, are the ones who can leverage AI to their own advantage. I'm more afraid of those people than the AI itself, because in the end AI is just statistics and probability.

So, let's say an AI is used in the war in Ukraine. What would it look like? Well, judging by the AlphaStar AI made to beat grand masters in Star Craft 2, it would look like complete and utter pwnage, even if the AI only gets control of a complete underdog.

While it's probably very challenging, I don't think it's outside the scope of possibility to adapt something like AlphaStar to real world tactical scenarios.

dijksterhuis• 3 years ago

Original article has a bit more content, although a fair bit of it is largely quoting from the source strategic plan -- https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/25/white_house_ai/

robbywashere_• 3 years ago

Great! Now do data privacy, it is long overdue.

atoav2• 3 years ago

I am not to optimistic about privacy law in the US when you have a significant part of the political landscape in the US trying to pave the road to the Christian equivalent of Sharia law.

There are political ideas of fundamental religious, socialist or fascist nature¹ which rely a lot on subjects snitching and telling on their neighbors, kids telling on their parents and so on. They don't want stricter privacy law for all. Maybe for the political leadership, but not for commoners and people whom they disagree with.

Thinking about privacy makes no sense, if you have a considerable amount of the voting population that would be fine with abolishing the democratic process. How would one expect those people to respect your privacy (law or not) if they can't even be bothered to respect the democratic vote of the people they have been taught to hate?

¹: As someone living in Germany which has seen this twice (under the Nazis and under the GDR) I can't help but noticing the US slipping into a similar direction: There have been politicians toying with the idea that a dictator is needed in the US, others have "joked" about hunting their opposition with dogs: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-...

PrimeMcFly3• 3 years ago

I am not to optimistic about privacy law in the US when you have a significant part of the political landscape in the US trying to pave the road to the Christian equivalent of Sharia law.

Congress is significantly older and more religious than most of the population. As younger people continue to take office like AOC, the attempt to do this will slowly be pushed back.

There have been politicians toying with the idea that a dictator is needed in the US

Honestly, I favor a benevolent dictator with checks and balances, so not a dictator in the usual sense, but rather someone with enough authority to actually do things without opposition, but also an easy means of removal and a jury type deal to overrule certain things (as opposed to legislation having to go through two houses first).

Democracy only works when you have an educated population, otherwise you get what's happening in the US. That aside, democracy shouldn't allow people to vote on everything...the same way not everyone is qualified to be a manager and make decisions.

Vote on how local money should be spent, for a pool or a park? Sure. Vote on best steps to combat climate change? No. Not when half the population is in denial that it even exists.

astrange2• 3 years ago

That's CCPA. It protects people outside California since it'd be too much work to implement it just for them.

free-nachos• 3 years ago

I'm hopeful it will. In practice I've seen the malicious compliance angle more often e.g. 'send us photocopies of id / official documents to prove you're a CA resident and then we'll remove your data.'

monocasa• 3 years ago

It also changes one of the plan's strategies: 2019's "Make long-term investments in AI research" becomes "Make long-term investments in fundamental and responsible AI research" in the 2023 document.

I can't help but think of Google's leaked memo "We Have No Moat, And Neither Does OpenAI". https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-ne... They saw an existential threat in the idea that they might be surpassed by a new player. Can't have that, need regulations defining "responsible" AI.

pyrale• 3 years ago

Can't have that, need regulations defining "responsible" AI.

Too bad they sacked their AI ethics department a while back.

umeshunni• 3 years ago

Probably the best thing they've done in years.

astrange2• 3 years ago

For "Google memo leaked", read "one person at Google spread around the memo they wrote to make it seem more important".

UberFly• 3 years ago

White House: Everyone's talking about this AI thing. Do you think we should release a statement that we like it too?

fmajid• 3 years ago

Surely you mean the Turing Police?

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