Canada police arrest ‘pedophile hunting’ group over child abuse images

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/31/canada-arrest-pedophile-hunting-group-explicit-images

by matbilodeau • 3 years ago

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“There were exchanges of photos during conversations [online] and what the law says, when you share a photo, that it is explicit pornographic material and that you claim that it represents a person of age minor, even if it really isn’t, it becomes child pornography,” constable Andrée East told the Canadian Press. “It’s considered as such, even if in truth it doesn’t really represent the body of a minor person.”

Yes there is an exception in Canadian legislation when such investigation techniques are used by law enforcement.

dmitrygr• 3 years ago

that it is explicit pornographic material and that you claim that it represents a person of age minor, even if it really isn’t, it becomes child pornography

This is idiotic

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Ron_Jere...

This photo of a 55-year old ron jeremy is actually of a 15 year old, as per my claim right here. Come and get me, RCMP!

pjkundert• 3 years ago

Interesting how people who put elites at risk of being caught for child sexual abuse get arrested, but no elites ever get arrested…

duxup3• 3 years ago

What “elites” was this group catching?

duxup3• 3 years ago

I ran across some groups on Reddit who seemed to portray themselves as vigilantes in search of pedophiles.

They had all sorts of conspiracy theories and ideas intertwined with their “research”.

But at some point it seemed that’s all it was. Conspiracy theories, and their activities that honestly seemed indistinguishable from just describing trading child porn…

Always hard to know if it was real but it was a weird crowd. They seemed to be very personally invested in their role, and very confident in their ability to find various crimes wherever they looked.

guilhas• 3 years ago

Are you talking about the FBI?

How the FBI became the world’s largest distributor of child sex abuse imagery https://thenextweb.com/news/how-the-fbi-became-the-worlds-la...

duxup3• 3 years ago

No I’m talking about a group on Reddit.

ethicalsmacker• 3 years ago

This is interesting. You can exchange or even purchase stolen or breached data to confirm its authenticity or access your own data (see haveibeenpwned). You can also leverage the data to find its origins, leaker, etc.

You cant handle other materials to find the perpetrators?

DoItToMe81• 3 years ago

Wow. They sent legal porn but claimed it was an underage persona, which made it legally the same as real child abuse and molestation. That's a very strange law.

matbilodeau3• 3 years ago

It's to tackle potential defense strategies. - No harm done, just drawings... - No harm done, the person actually waiting in the motel room was of legal age. etc.

YourDadVPN• 3 years ago

The drawings one is weird. In the case of the "decoy" being of age, it doesn't matter because the person intended to abuse a child. But a drawing? It's disgusting but I don't see why it should be a crime.

Canada police arrest ‘pedophile hunting’ group over child abuse images

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