FEMA advises Gov. DeWine Ohio is not eligible for assistance at this time

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/fema-advises-gov-dewine-ohio-is-not-eligible-for-assistance-at-this-time-east-palestine-train-derailment-white-house-federal-emergency-management-agency-health-human-services-cdc

by Jimmc414 • 3 years ago

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infamouscow• 3 years ago

I can see why tax strikes happened in the past.

gamblor9562• 3 years ago

For context, for ideological reasons, DeWine chose not to spend billions in emergency money previously allocated to Ohio during an massive global emergency [1], so its sus that Ohio would ask for or need federal assistance for what amounts to a very localized emergency solely affecting a single town in a single state.

At any rate, Ohio already has the money to respond to this emergency.

[1] https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/06/ohio-gov-mike-dewine-...

klyrs• 3 years ago

I'm not familiar with policy surrounding this. Is disaster-relief funding fungible in the manner that you're suggesting it be used?

vuln5• 3 years ago

Yep all that run off into the water or chemicals in the air will just stay in the little white republican town. /s

redeeman2• 3 years ago

you may /s, but you can be sure thats what the federal government actually think

Supermancho• 3 years ago

its sus that Ohio would ask for or need federal assistance for what amounts to a very localized emergency solely affecting a single town in a single state.

This is dismissive. I don't believe it's a proper categorization, at the core.

Ecological disaster that results from a train that crossed state lines, directly affecting citizens, casually appears to be a federal matter. The state is not expected to have spending and resources to cope with this type of disaster. Scale is just one quality of concern. Intensity is another. Responsibility is another. etc.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/about/fy08_fema_sp_bookmarked.pdf

Mission: Reduce the loss of life and property and protect the Nation from all hazards, including natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other man-made disasters, by leading and supporting the Nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation

gamblor9562• 3 years ago

I guess I should have been more clear: I'm just mocking the justification DeWine used to turn down prior federal emergency funding.

Yes, it's a federal matter. The leakage crosses state lines. But Ohio already has billions in federal money it can spend toward this disaster that it is simply choosing not to spend, for ideological reasons, and which it is attempting to use to lower local taxes.

vuln5• 3 years ago

I don't understand _why_ FEMA is saying Ohio is not eligible for assistance. Is it because DeWine hasn't declared an emergency or don't the right escalation steps to get FEMA involved?

Why hasn't FEMA responded with something like; Ohio needs to do x y and z before we can assist?

Is this the federal government literally telling people to just fuck off because there's other stuff going on right now and 1000 trains derail every year? That's why FEMA or the federal government won't help because it's not a big deal?

CodexArcana2• 3 years ago

You have not met the federally mandated quota for volume of suffering. Please call back when you do.

dsfyu404ed• 3 years ago

Why hasn't FEMA responded with something like; Ohio needs to do x y and z before we can assist?

I assume that just like any other politicized bureaucratic process there's a bunch of ambiguity built in that lets them make subjective judgement however they want.

amanaplanacanal3• 3 years ago

It sounds like FEMA normally steps in when there had been mauve property damage, which isn't the case here. They may need help, just not the kind they provide.

vuln5• 3 years ago

Could you help me with this term? "mauve property damage" I attempted to google but there were no results.

It looks the the DRF does provide the type of help they need.

The DRF also funds:

The repair and restoration of qualifying disaster-damaged public infrastructure

Hazard mitigation initiatives

Financial assistance to eligible disaster survivors

Fire Management Assistance

Grants for qualifying large forest or grassland wildfires

https://www.fema.gov/about/reports-and-data/disaster-relief-...

throwaway67343• 3 years ago

""The state needed help testing the water and air — EPA is providing it. They called for an investigation into the derailment — the Department of Transportation is on it. The Governor today asked for help to conduct additional public health testing and assessments — we’re deploying teams from HHS and the CDC to get that done," the Biden administration official told Fox News Digital.

"Each federal agency has its own unique role here, and we’ve mobilized an interagency team to get the people of East Palestine the support they need," the official said."

thephyber• 3 years ago

FEMA isn’t the right tool for this job.

From another article:

"Although FEMA is synonymous with disaster support, they’re most typically involved with disasters where there is tremendous home or property damage," Gov. DeWine continued.
This would include situations like tornadoes, flooding or hurricanes, Gov. DeWine explained.
"That is why we do not expect that FEMA will come to East Palestine."

vuln5• 3 years ago

Can you please link the article? It has the be the first that has an actual reason. Everything else doesn't report the actual reasoning given by FEMA.

I don't understand why FEMA would allow a Governor to be their mouth piece.

dragonwriter3• 3 years ago

Why hasn’t FEMA responded with something like; Ohio needs to do x y and z before we can assist?

They almost certainly have (or, to the extent that FEMA is the wrong federal agency for assistance – EPA, HHS/CDC, and NTSB are heavily involved in the response already – pointed them to the correct agency), but this story is based on DeWine’s social media post, which is equally certainly a limited and biased perspective on the state-federal communication involved.

cyanydeez• 3 years ago

There's a whole multibillion dollar company responsible.

CodexArcana2• 3 years ago

The rail company didn't show because of safety concerns. FEMA doesn't show because they're not needed, according to them. The people can't go back because it's unsafe. Let's just scratch it off the map at this point and call it a day.

steponlego• 3 years ago

Federal government has other priorities, on the border of Russia to be exact.

dragonwriter3• 3 years ago

There’s massive federal involvement in East Palestine (of which FEMA is a part, but not the biggest part). But a lot of the things FEMA would fund in, say, a natural disaster are things Norfolk Southern is responsible for here (and which EPA – federal, but not FEMA) has already secured a commitment from them to pay for.

fwungy3• 3 years ago

Money is needed for Ukraine. McConnell and McCarthy are on board.

Sorry citizens.

throwaway67343• 3 years ago

Yes exactly.

Aiding a country that wants to join the American sphere of influence against a genocidal, authoritarian regime is well worth the money. Especially when they're making America's enemies bleed.

redeeman2• 3 years ago

yeah, it is so useful to further ally with one of the most corrupt countries in the world, that it far outshadows the near total destruction of a small town in the US itself.

fwungy3• 3 years ago

The USA has poked the bear. The bear has not yet begun to fight, while NATO scrapes the barrel for weapons.

America's hubris will be remembered.

amanaplanacanal3• 3 years ago

Three is more information here: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-explains-why-tu...

colpabar• 3 years ago

Unrelated, but how much does it cost to scramble F22s to shoot down weather balloons?

TurkishPoptart• 3 years ago

This is a mini-Chernobyl...these people need help.

FEMA advises Gov. DeWine Ohio is not eligible for assistance at this time

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