Firearms channels embrace Rumble as YouTube starts censoring videos

https://reclaimthenet.org/firearms-channels-embrace-rumble-as-youtube-censors/

by mikece • 3 years ago

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legitster• 3 years ago

The Forgotten Weapons strike is the most brazen one. As a rule the channel is completely apolitical, and he covers guns purely in an informational or educational context.

I guess from Youtube's perspective - simply acknowledging that something exists is too controversial for the platform.

I can get that Youtube doesn't want domestic terrorist training videos up on the site, but it seems they have to at least acknowledge that you shouldn't really ban people doing perfectly legal things.

COGlory• 3 years ago

He said that his YouTube representative told him that going forward, firearms creators will get a strike and have videos removed if they:
Insert magazines that are greater than 30 rounds into a firearm
“Modify” firearms (YouTube’s definition of “modifying” includes installing accessories such as lights, hand guards, optics, and silencers

This makes no sense. I don't know of any municipality that bans > 30rd magazines. There are many that ban > 10, but who is banning > 30???

Also, you can posses the magazine, you can film yourself in possession of it, but you cannot insert it into the gun? That doesn't make sense.

Obvious political moves that they are trying to shoehorn into some sort of coherent policy after the fact.

Also, while much of gun YouTube is quite cringey, (I say this as someone who owns > a dozen guns), going after Forgotten Weapons is laughable. He is not political in any way. He's solely an extremely professional, extremely thorough historian, with higher quality, more wholesome content than 99.9% of Youtube.

Also also: are movie trailers that depict a gun being loaded with a > 30 rd magazine now banned? Or movie trailers that show any kind of modified weapon? How about video game footage?

yucky• 3 years ago

  > Also also: are movie trailers that depict a gun being loaded with a > 30 rd magazine now banned? Or movie trailers that show any kind of modified weapon? How about video game footage?

No, of course not. There is no reason to expect consistency from an illogical policy.

ehnto• 3 years ago

I am not pro-guns for civillians (I live in Australia, different society, different discussion), but I do love the engineering and I really enjoy Forgotten Weapons. That someone could watch the gratuitous violence in action films but not be allowed to watch a calm demonstration of the engineering and history of firearms is just hypocrisy. No different to banning books of historical significance because you don't like the content.

It's also frustrating that these policies are so often retroactively applied. Add all this onto an entirely non-functional music and copyright system and YouTube has become very antagonistic to creators. It is not just that their policies are getting worse, it's also just very difficult to comply, and even when you comply you still get sent through the automated flag systems once in a while.

34611• 3 years ago

Also also: are movie trailers that depict a gun being loaded with a > 30 rd magazine now banned? Or movie trailers that show any kind of modified weapon? How about video game footage?

Rules do not apply to establishment corporate entities. You can find SNL sketches that use the N word on youtube. Youtube rents videos on their platform that has racist, etc language. Late night "comedy" shows could use vulgar terms/jokes without getting demonetized, banned, etc. It's just you can't. It's about reigning in the voice of the little guys and protecting corporate interests. Remember when youtube was about giving a platform to "you" - the little guys? The funny thing is that these guys support banning tiktok and giving youtube a greater monopoly. They, of all people, should be demanding more options. Where are they going to go once rumble does the same thing. After all, rumble is controlled by the same interests that control youtube.

SNL skit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuEBBwJdjhQ

richwater• 3 years ago

Big Business advances government interests. I'm not surprised. This current administration is brazenly anti-2A and pushing corporations to get in line or feel the squeeze.

TechBro8615• 3 years ago

Google has strayed so far from their original "Don't be Evil" motto. I wonder if Sergei and Larry are embarrassed about it. They should be, but I think it's more likely they just don't care.

DLA• 3 years ago

Well said! This is purely those in control of a platform imparting their views on users because they can. The challenge is (one of the challenges) is the “rules” change on the fly for no particular reason or some contrived reason citing “safety” or … your guess is as good as mine. Maybe next week it will be a ban on drones with more the 6 motors doing “risky” maneuvers or pit pull dogs because they are “dangerous” (silly example: dog owner; dogs aren’t dangerous, stupid owners that don’t train, socialize, handle K9s properly are) or home made ice cream making because sugar is bad for you. I mean where does this end? These decisions should be more community powered, IMO.

kderbyma• 3 years ago

They are not role models anymore. Billionaires are all rotten. the power corrupts them every single time. These two lost their souls long ago

kosherhurricane• 3 years ago

Or maybe, just maybe, Google is responding to the recent string of mass shootings.

alphanullmeric3• 3 years ago

I wonder if people like you support anything other than the redistribution of consequences. Seems like bread and butter at this point.

IronWolve• 3 years ago

When a policy is created to push an agenda and ban legal content and yt is basically a monopoly (android), maybe it should lose its ability to censor content they dont like, as long as its legal.

i67vw3• 3 years ago

Odysee is also a good choice 'along' with Rumble.

As far as I know, Odysee also has many 3D printed gun manufacturing channels with design specs posted on odysee itself. As Odysee deals with Video, Audio, Image, Text Files it becomes easier for 3D printed gun channels.

https://odysee.com/@Print2A:1 https://odysee.com/@nameisnight:3

_boffin_• 3 years ago

This is where image recognition and automatic submissions of infractions against large companies, US Military, news, White House, movie studios, etc… might be warranted. All these channels show varying content that’s described in the article.

brokenmachine2• 3 years ago

Of course corporations will be exempt.

brokenmachine2• 3 years ago

So I presume almost every hollywood movie trailer will be banned now?

HAHAHA of course not! Rules for thee.

EdwardDiego8• 3 years ago

I'm not sure how these rules would apply to movie magazines though, it really depends on how you treat infinity mathematically, are Hollywood magazines positive infinity or negative infinity capacity?

JoeyBananas• 3 years ago

The weird thing about this ban is that it applies to extremely specific actions. The creators have to do things like blur out suppressors like their penises, but only when they are being attached to the barrel

Firearms channels embrace Rumble as YouTube starts censoring videos

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