Codea is on sale for 1 dollar, grab it and teach your child programming

by antirez • 15 years ago

67 30 15 years ago

antirez6• 15 years ago

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated at all with Codea, I just happen to like it and to think it is a very good thing for children.

iTunes link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/codea/id439571171?mt=8

_corbett4• 15 years ago

awesome to know! I just saw this the other day and made a note to buy it

you should also teach your daughter to program, the title of your link is pretty much the definition of sexist

bulte-rs3• 15 years ago

Exactly! I'm currently expecting my first child; but putting the purchase of this app on hold until I know for sure I'll get a son. ;-)

thehodge• 15 years ago

Would probably change the title to teach your child programming...

have bought the app anyway :)

dextorious2• 15 years ago

The title is a DISGRACE!

What about the 1% of the audience that will teach their daughter instead?

This extreme sexist attitude is why there aren't enough women startup founders --and not enough women at the parties me and my buddies throw, like last month's "Yacc and Lex Appreciation Party". We even had free Jolt Cola!

jawns• 15 years ago

The OP is from Italy; it may be the case that English is not his first language, and that he simply made an error.

AdamN• 15 years ago

I have to imagine that the title was written by a non-native english speaker - or it was a crude joke. In this day and age, I can't imagine a native english speaker using gendered language in this situation.

talmand2• 15 years ago

Wow, overreact much?

mooism25• 15 years ago

Did you see the original title before the OP changed it?

I thought dextorious's comment was intended to satirise both the people who complain about sexism in hacker culture, and the people who insist there's no sexism in hacker culture.

doktrin• 15 years ago

It was clearly a tongue in cheek response.

dextorious2• 15 years ago

Actually, I find the whole thing a non-issue.

I was just mocking similar responses prevalent in a lot of HN comments...

tlear• 15 years ago

This is actually a great title it will draw in more traffic because of the supposed controversy of it

antirez6• 15 years ago

Title changed, sorry, I did an error because of my poor English. In Italian if you say "your son" there is not a strong correlation with the gender.

EDIT: To everybody that signaled this news because there was an error in the title: now it is outside the listing, and many daughters (and sons) lost the possibility of being exposed to it. Overreacting is always bad.

EDIT2: considering the issue again, overreacting is probably better than overlooking this kind of issue...

mooism25• 15 years ago

Thanks.

(I have removed my flag, and hope everyone else who flagged it removes their flags too.)

antirez6• 15 years ago

Thank you. Btw I'll make sure to avoid this error in the future.

_corbett4• 15 years ago

calling people on sexism isn't overreacting, it is simply reacting. and saying people should be silent when they see stuff like this is much worse in the long run for the community.

antirez6• 15 years ago

That was pretty clearly unintentional. Every xmas I do the best of my efforts to purchase gift for my little female cousins that can help them developing skills, while unfortunately many others will buy them a Barbie, so I really care about this kind of issues. But writing a bad title unintentionally is not sexism.

Jun8• 15 years ago

This is great news, wanted to buy this for a long time, now there's no reason to do it.

On a linguistic note, though: this small mistake exposes an interesting rift between what's understood to be "sexist language" in the US and in Europe. People are hypersensitive about this issue in the US, typical example is using constructs like "he or she" or just always using the feminine pronoun, with the argument that (I'm simplifying it, of course, so that the margin can hold it) consistent use of "he", say in scientific writing, discourages women from participating.

What always amazed me is that in European countries with a solid track record of feminism, such linguistic issues do not matter. In German, the use of "Mann" is common, there are many female nouns derived from the masculine forms, e.g. "die Hackerin" (discussed on HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2908972, akin to the -ess ending in English), etc. In French, even if there is only one male in a group, it is referred to using the masculine plural. Many more examples can be given (the "your son" vs "your child" mistake in the title being another one), which to the US ear would be cases of sexism. Yet, this "sexist usage" does not seem to have the negative consequence on female performance in Europe.

What gives?

richardg• 15 years ago

This is a great app.. Just bought it! Makes me take a look at Lua too..

Codea is on sale for 1 dollar, grab it and teach your child programming

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