Acute hepatitis of unknown aetiology – UK

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/acute-hepatitis-of-unknown-aetiology---the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland

by gmac • 4 years ago

65 37 4 years ago

who.int

nikolay4• 4 years ago

Weren't the mRNA vaccines suspected to cause this based on the Swedish study?

cryptonector• 4 years ago

Careful, Musk hasn't bought HN yet.

nikolay4• 4 years ago

You're right. I start experiencing a shadow ban, emailed HN, and they confirmed that my comments are low-quality, so, they've limited my account. They asked me to promise I will not get involved in flaming, pointed a bunch of "high-quality" comments I've made in the past, and they've said they will restore my unrestricted status if I promise to behave. Meanwhile, they encourage throwaway accounts!

d--b• 4 years ago

It doesn’t say if the children had been vaccinated. I dont know about the Uk, but here in France they didn’t ask for children so young to be vaccinated.

martinald• 4 years ago

From this Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/apr/15/who-monitors...

"Officials stressed there was “no link” between the cases and the Covid-19 vaccine, as none of the children affected by hepatitis had received a jab."

jbjbjbjb• 4 years ago

Children under the age of 12 in the U.K. are only just being allowed to vaccinate and there is no big push to do it like there was for adults.

Herodotus38• 4 years ago

In the linked report the initial 10 cases in Scotland and all were in the 11 month to 5 year old. In the Uk you have to be 5 to get a covid vaccine.

IndySun• 4 years ago

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hepatitis-increas...

The WHO link is a 404.

ashildr2• 4 years ago

Well, PIMS / MIS-C at least sometimes seems to affect the liver:

„Acute hepatitis is a prominent presentation of the multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children: a single-center report“ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7655704/

Maybe having COVID19 is not a good idea in general, even for children.

guilhas4• 4 years ago

No disease is a good idea. It is not like people choose to have them

And these cases are very recent, 2022. So based on previous data COVID has not been very dangerous to children

Edit: wrongly thought the original article mentioned underlying health conditions. So replies might be unrelated now

ashildr2• 4 years ago

So you are saying that children with underlying health conditions are at a higher risk for MIS-C and / or this hepatitis than the rest?

paulmd• 4 years ago

I have repeatedly seen HNers argue that COVID is harmless to children (no qualifiers), and that the cure is worse than the disease.

Besides, arguing that COVID is harmless as long as you're not one of the people it harms is just morally and intellectually bankrupt. Yes, clever tautology, but there are real-world consequences for real people here.

TacticalCoder• 4 years ago

Maybe having COVID19 is not a good idea in general, even for children.

Isn't the estimate now that 60% of the EU population had Covid-19 at least once? The WHO estimate in january was that by march at least 50% of the EU would have had Omicron only. Then you add all the other variants on top of that.

I mean: short of locking yourself up forever, you don't really get to decide if you get Covid or not so I don't understand your comment.

guilhas4• 4 years ago

Interesting, all very recent cases

sudden_dystopia• 4 years ago

Why is it seemingly localized to the UK though? If it’s covid related, I guess it could be like one specific strain causing it or something. But it seems more likely to me that it ends up being some sort of contaminated product. I got some tainted supplements on Amazon and they messed my liver levels up for a few months. Luckily I caught it early enough.

thomond• 4 years ago

It isn't localized to UK, cases have been reported in Ireland and Spain as well.

donkeydoug• 4 years ago

what type of supplement was it ? what type of symptoms did you experience ? always worried about things like that.

carlmr2• 4 years ago

That's a huge issue with supplements if you ask me. Is the government doing anything to stop this? Do they test random samples and fine/ban the company from selling?

guilhas4• 4 years ago

Strangely all cases are very recent

pilsetnieks• 4 years ago

Because older cases have a known etiology. That's how research works - you don't know things until you know them.

There are no Rotschilds, Gateses or Soroses behind them.

guilhas4• 4 years ago

Well if there are older cases and are known of known etiology, were they caused by covid infection? If they weren't, why is this news relevant? If they were, why is it not mentioned, or made the news earlier?

It does not have to be anything or anyone particular. But if it is only a recent phenomenon it must have an explanation?

A new significantly different variant? Maybe caused by the mass vaccination of the population?

Some other other disease that coincidentally appeared recently?

Some undiagnosed existing underlying health condition?

Ignored, misdiagnosed in the past?

somewhereoutth• 4 years ago

It seems that the level of sickness in society is going to increase due to widespread Covid infection. The question is - by how much? There likely will be more evidence of the ongoing impact on public health. Hopefully it won't be too high a health burden, or we may have to re-evaluate our response.

mercy_dude• 4 years ago

Could it explain why the Chinese are locking down part of Shanghai? May be this time it’s a new variant coming out of China

mrlonglong2• 4 years ago

No. It's just Omicron causing havoc.

carlmr2• 4 years ago

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus type 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and/or adenovirus have been detected in several cases. The United Kingdom has recently observed an increase in adenovirus activity, which is co-circulating with SARS-CoV-2

Weren't most Brits immunized with an Adenovirus-based SARS COV-2 vaccine? Could this maybe cause issue with the immune responses to some Adenoviruses?

ageitgey• 4 years ago

It changed over time. Almost everyone vaccinated who was 40 and under and boosters have been done with Pfizer/Moderna. The adenovirus vaccines were used mainly early on for higher age groups and at-risk groups getting initial doses.

In any case, the virus in the Oxford vaccines couldn't replicate and was a chimp virus that people hadn't been exposed to previously, so they would obviously notice if that specific virus started circulating.

mrlonglong2• 4 years ago

No, that was specifically ruled out as the majority of children with this disease had NOT had the vaccine.

eurasiantiger• 4 years ago

In concert with the recent Kinder eggs Salmonella episode just before Easter, I would hazard a guess that there is a supply chain attack at play here and it is specifically targeting Western children.

This reeks of terrorism.

Acute hepatitis of unknown aetiology – UK

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