Microsoft adds XMPP support to Windows Live

http://xmpp.org/2011/09/microsoft-adds-xmpp-support-to-windows-live-apis/

by bergie • 15 years ago

45 19 15 years ago

About time!

pilif• 15 years ago

So probably, there's just no more money to make with IM or people are moving away from MSN to Facebook. Funny how becoming more and more irrelevant can make people suddenly be "interested" in open standards.

drzaiusapelord• 15 years ago

Considering how close IE9 and IE10 are to getting web standards right, I suspect that profitability isn't the key here. Its competition.

ChrisArchitect• 15 years ago

think one reason might be because people are accessing IM via all sorts of wacky mobile apps, to keep them using their MSN accounts, need to make the protocol accessible - XMPP the obvious way to do that

bergie• 15 years ago

...which is probably why Facebook Chat also supports XMPP clients. Shame that they don't do federation, though.

bcx• 15 years ago

Sweet Olark (http://www.olark.com) for Windows Live Beta on it's way :-) -- I bet we could release it in a week.

Zash3• 15 years ago

I approve of this.

rbanffy2• 15 years ago

Anyone wants to bet they'll find some way to "enhance" it?

k33l0r• 15 years ago

It seems that they chose to "enhance" it with a proprietary authentication mechanism ("X_MESSENGER_OAUTH2"): http://www.process-one.net/en/blogs/article/details_on_msns_...

Because, you know, it would be silly if you could just use any off-the-shelf XMPP client/library...

rbanffy2• 15 years ago

Bets like mine are so easy it's not even fun.

hamidpalo• 15 years ago

It's not an "enhancement." It uses OAuth in a completely standard way. It was done to avoid people entering their Windows Live usernames and passwords all over the place, especially now considering how much can be tied to a WL account with Win 8.

I was part of the team that did this and we went to great lengths to make sure that we were in full compliance with the relevant RFCs.

AndrewDucker2• 15 years ago

Interesting. I use Windows Live Messenger with my normal email address - andrew@ducker.org.uk.

I also use XMPP through GChat, through apps for domains on the domain ducker.org.uk

I wonder how they're going to deal with that...

cipherpunk• 15 years ago

Most likely: "andrew@ducker.org.uk"@some-ms-xmpp-url

Zash3• 15 years ago

Apparently it's <oauth-access-token>@messenger.live.com.

AndrewDucker2• 15 years ago

Thank you!

ryandvm• 15 years ago

Like Facebook, they're only using XMPP for client-to-server. That is, you can use any run of the mill Jabber client to talk to your friends on MSN. I'll be impressed if they choose to do federation (server-to-server) like Google does so that you can use your Gmail account to chat with your Hotmail friends. That would be handy.

Microsoft adds XMPP support to Windows Live

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