CloudStack drops 'open core' goes completely open source

http://cloudstack.org/blog/cloudstack-the-best-kept-secret-in-cloud-computing.html

by ke4qqq • 15 years ago

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CloudStack, the IaaS cloud behind Zynga, Edmunds.com, Godaddy and 60 other of the largest clouds announced today that it was releasing as open source, all of the proprietary features that had been historically been held back.

schiptsov5• 15 years ago

For the love of God, why Java when there is Python? ^_^

daeken3• 15 years ago

I downvoted you, but you're fairly new here so let me tell you why. This comment is fairly content-free; you don't make an argument for why Python would be a good choice, or why Java is a bad choice, or anything to make it relevant. This combined with the emoticon (which you seem to append to all your comments) is unnecessary, and you'll find that emoticons aren't well received here -- note that you see very, very, very few comments using them.

schiptsov5• 15 years ago

I didn't make any long arguments, assuming that so-called hackers are aware of absurdity of trying to manage an OS (some kernel modules utilizing an API implemented as a shared library) from a virtual machine which is, in its turn, implemented as an user-level process running under that same OS. And I'm assuming that these hackers are familiar with python's standard library and a long tradition of implementing system management utilities in Python since, at least, RH6.. ^_^

btw, thank you for explaining your opinion. It is much more civilized than silent down-voting by frustrated fanboys. ^_^

JDavo• 15 years ago

He does have a point although he might not have meant to. I've setup both Cloud.com's stack and the OpenStack for smallish private clouds and I have to agree with him. Java was a poor choice for the project and my experience of it (6-7 months ago, caveat emptor) was that it was riddled with bugs and suffered from more than a few bad design decisions. It's 200k+ lines, with very few tests (I'd wager on single digit coverage if I was a betting man), has a homemade ORM (why no hibernate?), the design of the instance image delivery system defies all human logic and there's no proper messaging queue anywhere to be found. Add to that colourful spectrum of inconsistencies and you end up with a lot of issues. However, I'm not saying that those issues are Java's fault, they clearly aren't. But, with any language choice there comes a culture and I don't think I'm being unfair when I say that I see these kinds of things more in Java projects than in Python. For comparison, the OpenStack is about ~70k lines (~30k of which are tests).

suprgeek• 15 years ago

This is an excellent move by Citrix. NASA had major issues with Eucalyptus being "open core" and not "Open Source" which was one of the main reasons they co-funded OpenStack. With Citrix moving to commercialize Openstack, having one less variant of the software stack will mean less confusion for their customers.

leej• 15 years ago

Explanation is rather confusing. Cloudstack is analogous only to OpenStack Compute and does not have specific storage part, right?

CloudStack drops 'open core' goes completely open source

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