Argentina blocks more than 1,000,000 blogger blogs.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogleamericalatinablog.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F08%2Fblogs-bloqueados-en-argentina.html

by brackin • 15 years ago

65 45 15 years ago

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seppo0010• 15 years ago

As an argentinian... fuck this.

    seppo$ ping 216.239.32.2
    PING 216.239.32.2 (216.239.32.2): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 216.239.32.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=163.108 ms
    ^C
    --- 216.239.32.2 ping statistics ---
    1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 163.108/163.108/163.108/0.000 ms
    seppo$ curl 216.239.32.2
    curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
    seppo$ curl https://216.239.32.2
    curl: (7) couldn't connect to host

andreyf• 15 years ago

Per rubyrescue's comment, you should be trying 216.239.32.21

rubyrescue• 15 years ago

I'm in Buenos Aires, Argentina and HTTP requests to that IP don't work either with or without my US proxy, so i'm not sure if that IP is correct. According to reddit the point was to block www.leakymails.com which is at 216.239.32.21. Let's try that:

$ host www.leakymails.com www.leakymails.com has address 216.239.32.21

NO proxy, open chrome to IP - can't connect

with US proxy, open chrome to IP - google 404 page (normal - presumably because of no host header)

NO proxy, chrome to http://www.leakymails.com - can't connect

with US proxy, chrome to http://www.leakymails.com - works

So probably the google article left the 1 off of the last digit; .21

bigwally• 15 years ago

Maybe Argentina should do what China does and block anything that resolves to ghs.google.com

By blocking ghs.google.com the blocking country won't be subject to any write ups on an official google blog.

kodisha• 15 years ago

Does anyone knows the reason why they blocked blogger in the first place?

RyanKearney• 15 years ago

There were 2 blogs they wanted to block specifically. They blocked those blogs IP addresses without understanding how the internet works.

Aqwis• 15 years ago

What were the topics of those two blogs?

Joakal• 15 years ago

There was an account with blogger [0]. So they blocked the ip address of that domain which was shared with many others as you can see in this article.

[0] http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&h...

wging• 15 years ago

Maybe this is too off-topic for HN, but... that's a surprisingly readable translation!

yariang• 15 years ago

I noticed that too. Spanish is my native language and, unless Google wrote that translation themselves, the machine translation from Spanish to English is spot on!

kristofferR• 15 years ago

Holy shit. I didn't actually notice that it was translated until you pointed it out.

will_• 15 years ago

I was very, very impressed by the translation - kudos goes to the Google translate engineers. If this high quality of translation can be achieved consistently, it marks a pretty significant step in human progress.

brackin• 15 years ago

It's pretty incredible how far Google Translate has come.

naner• 15 years ago

Google translate accepts contributed manual translations of any particular text. (Try double clicking some words on the page.) We have no way of knowing how much of that was done purely by software and how much was touched-up by human contributions.

Not to take anything away from Google, but I suspect software-only translation isn't quite as good as this seems yet.

watchandwait• 15 years ago

Argentine president Cristina Kirchner is an authoritarian thug with a long record of abusing private property rights, and now, free speech.

wslh6• 15 years ago

Yes and ironically she got more than 50% of the votes in last week preliminary election. The mysteries of democracy.

anamax• 15 years ago

We know nothing about the alternatives.

And then there's why such folk are often elected even when more freedom is on the ballot.

"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort."

Heinlein.

burgerbrain5• 15 years ago

  "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

  "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

  "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

  "Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong
  lizard might get in"

marianoguerra7• 15 years ago

so we can say that obama is an authoritarian thug too?

visit this and tell me what you see:

http://rojadirecta.com/

please don't overgeneralize, this was a court ruling (which I'm against) but don't use it as an excuse to make Argentina look like a dictatorship.

since you say she has a "long record of abusing private property rights, and now, free speech."

I would like to know some cases so people outside Argentina know (an for that matter me too)

PS: before you attack me with the easy label of being a peronist, let me tell you that I'm not.

wslh6• 15 years ago

Do you know how many decrees Cristina signed? without congress intervention?

burgerbrain5• 15 years ago

>so we can say that obama is an authoritarian thug too?

Yes, you can say that. You can say whatever you want and when you say that in particular, I think I'll even join you.

Bringing up other rulers when someone accuses one nation's of being a tyrant is a meme that needs to die. It is logically unsound and terribly offtopic.

cualunque4• 15 years ago

Can I mention the 125 resolution, pension funds, football TV contracts, disproportionate propaganda funds spent on ridiculous newspapers, the prohibition to sell Clarin in some newstands, the public attack on journalists?

mrleinad4• 15 years ago

How does she have anything to do with some ISP (mistakenly) blocking an IP, because a judge ruled that two sites should be blocked?

May I remind you of the Communications Media Law that was passed some time ago, protecting free speech from monopolies?

You're just trolling AND off-topic. You should be downvoted.

cualunque4• 15 years ago

The reasons given by the authors of a law don't make the law fulfill that objective. In the case of the law you mention, I'd believe it was to protect free speech if they'd included provisions to distribute the official funds between every media outlet, otherwise I'd say it's another way to support only those that think like the current government and stagnate every dissenting opinion.

pp2moonbird• 15 years ago

not bad, more websites are blocked in china

wslh6• 15 years ago

More on: Argentine ISPs Use Bazooka to Kill Fly https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/argentina-isps-ip-over...

marianoguerra7• 15 years ago

the title is misleading, read eff

Argentine ISPs Use Bazooka to Kill Fly

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/argentina-isps-ip-over...

the judge ruled to block two sites, ISPs blocked by IP

burgerbrain5• 15 years ago

The effect is the same, and the intention is just as reprehensible.

marianoguerra7• 15 years ago

sure, I'm against censorship of any kind, I answered to prove that the title was misleading and that trying to tie the country or government for an ISP mistake was wrong.

sorry if I was misunderstood, it's just I don't like over generalizations and sensationalist titles, I made an analogy to prove the point and it was misinterpreted.

if you check my account you will see that I almost never comment here, just for some specific project and just technology related, I think I will keep it like that from now on.

demian2• 15 years ago

No it isn't. The intention to kill 1 person is not as reprehensible as the intention to kill 1 million.

mrleinad4• 15 years ago

I'm tired of HN being so biased when voting on political issues.. If you don't agree, speak up. Downvoting someone is the last resort of those who have no valid argument at all. Downvoting is good when someone speaks nonsense, or there's something off-topic, or just plain (and provable) wrong. But not when someone's giving their opinions on something.

Argentina blocks more than 1,000,000 blogger blogs.

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